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Old 12-17-2004   #1
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Only 31 results shown for Yahoo

http://www.google.com/search?q=yahoo&start=30&sa=N

Bug or feature?

Filter or penalty?
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Google is broke

If you then click on the link to get the omitted results, you get this

http://www.google.com/search?q=yahoo...off=1&filter=0

So it's not a feature; it's either another one of their attempts at gaslighting us or it's a bug. Looks like Google is broke again.
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Old 12-17-2004   #3
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I don't know I get a different result.. it still states 283 million references and the first link pushes you to 30-40.
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Old 12-17-2004   #4
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Good find, bug is my thought.
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Old 12-18-2004   #5
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Must be fixed by now since I am seeing only normal results.
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Old 12-18-2004   #6
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Only 44 results here now.
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What I'm getting here

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Results 1 - 10 of about 284,000,000 for yahoo
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...GLD:en&q=yahoo

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Only 44 results here now.
Must be a filter. You are being filtered.
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Old 12-18-2004   #8
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Mine also reads that, but there are only about 40 results being shown. That is, nothing after page 4.
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Doesn't go anyplace here either once you get to 40 unless you click on this

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In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 38 already displayed.
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.
At first I'm seing a lot of pages with a different character set - like Japanese, I think - but even though I'm being a little facetious, when you think about it Yahoo has an awful lot of close_to_mirror sites out there with a lot of static content that's pretty much alike.
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I'm also seeing only 33 of about 284,000,000.

Weird about all those Japanese pages, "SEO" used to be full of them too, couldn't be down to keyword density, could it ;-)
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Hmmmm.. I am seein 49 out of 284,000,000 but it is clearly a filter of some sort:
http://www.google.com/search?q=yahoo...n&lr=&safe=off&filter=0 puts the Yahoo US searches that have been filtered out back in, replacing the Japanese sites on the first few hundred pages for the most part and

http://www.google.com/search?q=yahoo...n&lr=&safe=off&filter=1 reverts back to showing only 49 results before you have to click to see more.

But what on earth could they be filtering that would give this sort of results?
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one would think that Y would make a call on this

They should ask to be #1
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=yahoo&r=67

Princeton University must have something aginst Stanford
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filter=0

It seems there was some a significant change at Google on Thurs/Fri last week. Several forums have got long Update-style threads going on.

Many people have lost a load of rankings. Someone at Digital Point referenced adding filter=0 to the query URL brings their site back into the SERPs.

New filters?
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Old 12-20-2004   #14
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This is only an extension of what has been going on the past several months.

I would not be suprised if the entire index eventually disappeared into filter=0.

Okay, maybe surprised, but not shocked.
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hmmmmmmm

And just in from DaveN..

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22yahoo.%2Bcom%22

7 results.
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I asked someone about this..

I asked an engineer about this. It's an interaction in our code with how we do result crowding (result crowding is when you do a search like [dell] and we show two results from dell.com, with a "More results from www.dell.com" link under the second, indented result). Since one of the things "&filter=0" does is turn off result crowding, that's why you see all the results if you add that parameter.

The results are all available by adding "&filter=0" to the url, or you can add
site:yahoo.com
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-site:yahoo.com
to the query to get the ondomain/offdomain results.

From talking to the engineer about this, I'm pretty sure that it doesn't occur very often. If you want all the results, it's just a mouse click to get the results without result crowding (by clicking on the "repeat the search" hyperlink that adds "&filter=0"), or to get to the onsite results (by clicking on the "More results from yahoo.com" link below the second search result). Either mouse click should give plenty of results that way.

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BTW, I'm not at work this week, so I might not be checking forums as much as I usually do. Some workplace trivia: at many businesses, if your vacation time builds up too much, it's possible to lose vacation time unless you take a little time off.

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Thanks for that GG. Always interesting to get more insight into the whys and wherefors of Google.

I can understand the use of result crowding in normal searches but it seems to me that in site:searches it should be turned off by default?
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Happy to help. site: does turn off result crowding--that's why you get lots of results if you do mydomain site:mydomain.com. Either site: or &filter=0 will turn off result crowding, I believe..
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On a similar topic GG here
is a search where the site stores.hsprofessional.com/LAdelman/StoreFront.bok shows up at #11 with the browser preferences set to 20, but if you set the Browser preferences down to 10 the page totally disappears from the SERPs ??
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Mel, the page you're pointing out is on a subdomain of the site. Are there also pages out there from the site as a whole for the search term that aren't on that particular subdomain?

There are some sites that get multiple listings for the same identical search term at Yahoo utilizing subdomains, but I haven't seen that happening at Google.
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