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Old 11-14-2004   #1
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WebmasterWorld World of Search Conference #7

So who's here? Send me a PM if there any any impromtu get togethers going on. Its kind of hard to locate people with 7 bars at the Hilton. I'm at the Aladdin.
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plenty of good people to hook up with there.

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Thumbs up hard to locate people with 7 bars at the Hilton

THE party will be at the PALMS from 7 to 11 on Wednesday the 17th.
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I am not there yet but I will be - leaving tomorrow morning. I should be there by Monday evening. Hope to see a lot of you there!
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i'm flying out tomorrow afternoon too. nothing like last minute planning
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I'm flying out tomorrow morning. I'll be with the rowdy crowd over in the corner of the bar.
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I'll be there tomorrow night as well. See you there.
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Wow Barry, does this mean we might actually see you out and about socially instead of just fleetingly at the conference itself?
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Wow Barry, does this mean we might actually see you out and about socially instead of just fleetingly at the conference itself?
Ill be at the Yahoo party, well at least for a bit of it.

I should be at the after hour events this time, I hope.

But for those interested, I will be covering the sessions I attend at my blog.
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I'm headed out tomorrow. Still have to pack and get my drinking boots on .
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I get in at about 9:30 tonight. Should be a great time.
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So when, where, how, we meeting up?
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My coverage so far for the WMW conference. Feel free to post your questions and I will respond as soon as possible. I will update this thread as the day goes on.

WebmasterWorld Conference #7 Opening Ceremonies
http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/001148.html

Design and Coding for the Complete Package - WMW Conf 7
http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/001151.html

PFI Topics and Issues - WMW Conf 7
http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/001152.html

Super Session: History of SEO/SEM Theory and Testing - WMW Conf 7
http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/001153.html

Search Engine Friendly Design and Coding (Especially Flash) - WMW Conf 7
http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/001154.html

Informal Discussion with Tim Mayer and the Yahoo! Search Folks
http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/001155.html
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Good stuff Mr Brick!

Off the bat how does the conference compare to others you have attended, whats the "feel"?
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My "feel".

This conference has grown. I am not sure the number of "marketers" versus "webmasterworld" people who are here. I would guesstimate about 1,000 people are here, I'll ask Brett for the official number later.

My concern is all the discussion about the 'black hat' methods. Pretty much, every session I have attended spoke about methods to cloak, link spam and more. I understand it is part of the industry and I think it should be discussed. However, if - like SES - this conference has many marketers that do not understand these topics, I doubt they (the marketers) understand why so many people are smirking when discussing cloaking or link spam.

You have the search engine reps in the back of the room laughing, you have those who know a lot about this stuff smirking, but then you have those blank faces that do not understand it.

Its not a concern of mine that these people will use it for 'evil'. It is more of a concern that the audience is changing and the sessions need to change with it.

Leave spam discussion for a smaller conference with a closer group of people.

Hope I got my point across clearly. This conference has been wonderful, it is just different then SES.
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It's metamorphasized to an entirely different demographic.

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Sounds like they did.
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My concern is all the discussion about the 'black hat' methods. Pretty much, every session I have attended spoke about methods to cloak, link spam and more. I understand it is part of the industry and I think it should be discussed. However, if - like SES - this conference has many marketers that do not understand these topics, I doubt they (the marketers) understand why so many people are smirking when discussing cloaking or link spam.
I've heard that's been a large problem since that conference launched. It's nothing new to me. It's a large problem industry wide in my opinion, and why others outside the industry give it the bad reputation. We have top leaders in this industry who don't seem to care that innocent people are reading and learning and listening to those 'in the know' about how to spam. Nobody seems to care about the direction we are going.

I care, and won't let it happen.

It's shocking that Yahoo and even Google seem to not care about what is taught either. I'm very disappointed about that and will be doing "lots" of talking in the near future about all of this.

I recall a thread started in here by Danny on "why has the industry got this bad reputation?" I think the answer to that is rather clear.
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Doug,

Its not about the methods that concerns me.

Its about knowing who the audience is.
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It's not that shocking doug, they're big boys and they know what the score is. This stuff will all become obsolete at some point, and then be replaced with new algo workarounds. It's just the way it works mate. Human nature and all that....

I dont think they actually feel it's a problem. If they did, they'd do somthing about it wouldnt they?

I hope you'll be talking about it here, I dont get over to IHU so much these days
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