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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

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Forum Discussions and Blog Comments are waste because it has nofollow attribute most of the time.
Not necessarily. Just because a link won't "count" towards link popularity doesn't mean it's not valuable. The buzz and the traffic that can come from it can mean more than a thousand links that no one ever sees. Plus, they are a great source for online reputation management. It depends on how you view link building. There's more benefits than just "getting links."
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Not necessarily. Just because a link won't "count" towards link popularity doesn't mean it's not valuable. The buzz and the traffic that can come from it can mean more than a thousand links that no one ever sees. Plus, they are a great source for online reputation management. It depends on how you view link building. There's more benefits than just "getting links."
Our topic of discussion is "Wat is the latest link building technique" which is about link building to increase search engine position and we are talking about context.

When I written "Forum Discussions and Blog Comments are waste because it has nofollow attribute most of the time." I am writing in this context to improve SERP and PR and not about advantage of link building. So surely when a link is not being followed by search engines, it is waste of time and money.
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

do one-way link exchange, two-way link exchange. also develop quality back links through blogs.
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

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Our topic of discussion is "Wat is the latest link building technique" which is about link building to increase search engine position and we are talking about context.

When I written "Forum Discussions and Blog Comments are waste because it has nofollow attribute most of the time." I am writing in this context to improve SERP and PR and not about advantage of link building. So surely when a link is not being followed by search engines, it is waste of time and money.
I apologize if I got us off track. To me, link building is more than just building the number of backlinks. If that is your end-goal, then no-follow links will give you a less than optimal return, but there are more benefits to links than just link pop. I've also noticed that some no-follow links are getting followed by the search engines. It certainly is an interesting piece to watch. Thanks for clarifying.
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do one-way link exchange, two-way link exchange. also develop quality back links through blogs.
Sorry Sarah but one and two way link exchanges and blog links alone will likely not get the results you need and it may actually hurt you if you are focused too much on this.

This post has many interesting suggestions, but many people are making generalizations here.

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Forum Discussions and Blog Comments are waste because it has nofollow attribute most of the time.
This is an incorrect generalization.
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

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One of the most time and cost effective techique of Search Engine Optimization is though the use of directory submissions. When online businesses want a way to effectively promote and gain exposure for their websites they turn to quality web directories. There are many other articles and blog posts all across the internet documenting the benefits of link popularity and the use of web directories. By submitting sites for review at quality web directories you can obtain relevant, quality inbound links to your website to help improve search engine results and traffic to your website.
in using directory site there's no guarantee that will get listed not unless if you get paid them.

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one-way link exchange???!!??
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

Good sites even with nofollow still send traffic by themselves
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Old 02-13-2008
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

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do one-way link exchange, two-way link exchange. also develop quality back links through blogs.
There is no such thing like one-way link exchange. When you say one-way link exchange, it basically means that you are getting one way incoming link to your website which in another terms used as "Back Links" or "Inbound Links"

Link exchange will always will be two-way or three-way or multiway.

Do you mean circular link exchange (A->B->C->D->E->F->G->H->A) ?

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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

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This is an incorrect generalization.
See we are talking about how to build links for search engine ranking, right?

If a link is not followed by search engine like google when a link have nofollow attribute, definitely It does not have any value for google. Right. So this is the fact.

It's like that in a house of 4 room and 1 hall in center, If we restrict any visitors to enter into room number second but family member of the house can enter into it?

In this situation, visitor to house does not have any value of that room since they can not enter into it. Right?

The same way it is important for family members of the house who can enter into room number two.

It is the same way, If google can not follow a link, it does not have any value to it (link and linked page) until linked page is getting incoming links from other sources.

And since most of the forums signatures and blog comments are nofollow attribute, it does not have any value.

I hope this is easy to understand. and Let me know to the members that there is no generalization in the field of seo and link building since every rules can be broken. It's almight Google, Yahoo, MSN who decide the rules. We are the just followers of those rules.
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

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Good sites even with nofollow still send traffic by themselves
Aussie, I agree with you that in terms of lead building, traffic building campaigns, nofollow does not have any value because it's the people who follow the link instead of search engines.

I said this several times on this thread that nofollow does not stop people (visitors) from following a link. It only stops to almighty Google.

Thanks to (GG) Google God who implemented this attribute.
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

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I've also noticed that some no-follow links are getting followed by the search engines.
MooreSEO,

I would like to know any real example of this that no-follow links are getting followed by the search engines, if you can provide.

This will help all of us to rethink then.
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

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I would like to know any real example of this that no-follow links are getting followed by the search engines, if you can provide.
Keep in mind that this is very much an exception. The biggest one I can think of is del.icio.us. All of their links are no-follows, yet they show up in Site Explorer along with other tools I use to pull links like SEO SpyGlass. I realize that Yahoo owns Del.icio.us, so this may play a big part in it.

I'm doing some tests on other sites that have no-follow links to see if they have any additional effect. I'll be sure to keep you posted (no pun intended)!
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MooreSEO,

I would like to know any real example of this that no-follow links are getting followed by the search engines, if you can provide.

This will help all of us to rethink then.
an example would be Wikipedia content which is nofollowed and then gets scraped (stolen) and reposted with the links still live and with the nofollow removed. This happens quite frequently.
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

The best way valid for all times is creating a web page that people link back, bookmark and they are willing to see come back.
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The best way valid for all times is creating a web page that people link back, bookmark and they are willing to see come back.
This is very true, but the question becomes how do you start? Try doing some keyword research around some topics in your industry that could be news or article worthy. Write some content and then put the word out that it is on your site. Make sure it's high quality if you really want some links. Unfortunately, this is not a one-shot fix all. When you put content that is valuable out there, you are likely to get some repeat viewers. But, if you're not following it up with a constant stream of good content, you're more likely to lose your audience before you can really hook them in.
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

I've used Q&A sites to answer questions with links back to highly informative articles on our site. The key here is not to just link to the article as your answer, but to give a well thought out answer and then mention the link.

I use sites like WikiAnswers, Yahoo Answers, Yedda, and Askville. Some will let you use anchor text links, while others will only let you insert the URL as the link.

If you have a blog, I've recently found BlogCatalog to work quite well. It's like a blog directory and social site combined. You create a blog profile with a link to your blog, and avatar, description, etc., and you can then join other's "neighborhoods", groups related to your blog content, and add friends. You get links back to your blog from various profile pages on BlogCatalog, plus you get all sorts of exposure and traffic through your network.
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I've used Q&A sites to answer questions with links back to highly informative articles on our site. The key here is not to just link to the article as your answer, but to give a well thought out answer and then mention the link.

I use sites like WikiAnswers, Yahoo Answers, Yedda, and Askville. Some will let you use anchor text links, while others will only let you insert the URL as the link.

If you have a blog, I've recently found BlogCatalog to work quite well. It's like a blog directory and social site combined. You create a blog profile with a link to your blog, and avatar, description, etc., and you can then join other's "neighborhoods", groups related to your blog content, and add friends. You get links back to your blog from various profile pages on BlogCatalog, plus you get all sorts of exposure and traffic through your network.
Very solid post mate.... I hope a lot of people read this one
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

(moderator: please take the time to share comments instead of just dropping three sources)

Last edited by Chris Boggs : 03-08-2008 at 08:43 AM. Reason: no comment just three links - the thread is titled "what is the 'latest'..."
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

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I've used Q&A sites to answer questions with links back to highly informative articles on our site. The key here is not to just link to the article as your answer, but to give a well thought out answer and then mention the link.

I use sites like WikiAnswers, Yahoo Answers, Yedda, and Askville. Some will let you use anchor text links, while others will only let you insert the URL as the link.

If you have a blog, I've recently found BlogCatalog to work quite well. It's like a blog directory and social site combined. You create a blog profile with a link to your blog, and avatar, description, etc., and you can then join other's "neighborhoods", groups related to your blog content, and add friends. You get links back to your blog from various profile pages on BlogCatalog, plus you get all sorts of exposure and traffic through your network.
This is an excellent post. Most definitely agree with you. The key to getting solid back links is to provide useful and relevant information to your users. If you want to know what they are looking for, surf around in some social media sites (don't post links, just read what people are talking about) and identify the "hot topics." This will help you get a firm understanding of what people need and if they are / aren't finding it on the Web.
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Re: Wat is the latest link building technique

Thanks guys...appreciate it.

I also found this article the other day on Pole Position Marketing's site:

Link Building Secrets Revealed by Top Linking Experts
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