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Old 09-03-2004   #1
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Google Improves At Reading Flash

I did a search in this forum for words that contain "flash" and nothing really of this topic came up.

I was just checking the pages that Google has indexed of my corporate site and found that is did a nice job indexing a flash file and the words within the flash file. I know this is about 2 - 4 months old, but I think Google has improved slightly in the way it crawls flash files.

Take a look at the Google results for shipment widgets site:www.rustybrick.com

You will see the description and some of the title reads "loading % loaded RustyBrick's I just received a big shipment of the latest widgets. My customers would love to purchase them. I better add them to my site! ... "

The words "I just received a big shipment of the latest widgets. My customers would love to purchase them. I better add them to my site!" are actually within the flash file. If you like, take a look at the little flash demo by clicking on the link, I know it is corny, we created that about 5 years ago.
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Old 09-03-2004   #2
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Here's my two cents:

Google has for a while been crawling Flash. The problem is, <G> isn't really understanding it like it does HTML. It's not quite sure how to handle certain aspects of it. For example, links are not seen by <G>. This, of course is a biggie.

Also, text attributes are not being recognized like they should.

Plus, I think <G> is having problems decided just what weight to place of different elements.

In summary, <G> has broken the ground on crawling and indexing Flash, but they have a lot more to dig to place the foundation...
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Old 09-06-2004   #3
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[quote=dstew]Here's my two cents:
For example, links are not seen by <G>. This, of course is a biggie.
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They are and have been for a long time. I've seen hundreds of links from Flash that Google has followed and for that matter Flash even passes on Page Rank.

What makes you say links are not seen?
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I haven't seen any evidence of <G> being able to follow links inside a flash file. If you can point me to some examples of flash output where the links are more than simple text, then I'll stand corrected. The links I've seen look like simple lists of words:

Home

Products

Info

Contact

This is what I've based my thoughts on. Like I said though, maybe I'm wrong and you can point out some different examples...
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It isn't really all that hard to prove but here is a step by step .... the first thing to do is find a swf with a decent page rank so that any links will show up in a link search for the linked to page. Then too, it has to have links in the swf so I did a search on ...

http://www.google.com/search?q=http:...&start=10&sa=N

... searching for "http://" and limiting the filetype to "swf". At result 11 or so I found this url ....

http://www.njagyouth.org/colortest.swf

... which, if you play it through links to this page ....

http://www.humorsphere.com

... then, doing a link search on that site you find, at about position 450 the swf file that we found in the first place. I had a better example in another post but thought I'd see how long it took to find one starting from scratch - about 2 minutes and I know for a fact that in the last 6 months I've seen hundreds of others. I've avoided using my own sites or sites that I've worked on, but certainly there is no doubt. Here is the link to the search that shows the link from the swf.

http://www.google.com/search?q=link:...start=400&sa=N
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