View Full Version : Lost rankings after Search Submit expired
07-24-2004, 01:55 PM
A few days ago I got a reminder from PT that the Inktomi Search Submit had expired for one of my sites. Two days later I lose my position in the serps at Yahoo.
I have been in this situation a few times recently and never went ahead with the renewal/SiteMatch and those pages are still OK. Plus I'm OK at Pure Search & MSN. Any ideas?
07-24-2004, 02:17 PM
build links into your site.
if your site is dynamic make it search engine friendly.
Well, what has happen is what should have happened.
As I'm sure you know the paid url's come from a different database, stop paying and poof you are gone. If the site "deserves" to be in the real database then you should come back pretty quickly. I've always seen an almost seamless transition, some have to wait a few short weeks.
>build links into your site.
Is good advice.
07-25-2004, 06:41 AM
Thanks for your thoughts guys.
Ah well, it's their loss - it's a great site :D
07-25-2004, 07:10 AM
youngpup, I think you're misunderstanding.
Previously, you were paying for Inktomi inclusion; once you stopped paying, the listings would drop from the index.
What the others are saying, though, is simply to optimize your site (assuming it isn't already; if you had good listings, then it probably was), get links to it from other sites, and then it should reappear in the index. Generally costs less, but is more work.
07-25-2004, 09:15 AM
Thanks for your thoughts Diane - what had me puzzled was why other sites I own had kept their ranking even when I let the Search Submit expire. I'm assuming it is as NFFC said, a short time/seamless transition for those sites (I am not an avid position checker).
The site is optimised and has hundreds of inbounds and is in the Yahoo directory (3 years) - I did not expect to drop out of the first 100 or more positions - with an internal page showing up on page 2.
07-25-2004, 09:47 AM
My guess is that it is just a matter of time. With what you describe, it ought to be back in the Yahoo search before long.
07-25-2004, 10:17 AM
It could possibly depend on whether you were in the free-crawl index before doing the PFI. Either way, it shouldn't take long; there's been a lot of Slurp activity. Just make sure you have several links in and at least 1 link from a page that gets crawled a lot. Not that you can know for sure, but you can try.