View Full Version : Adsense One Click Per IP Time frame?
Relevancy
05-23-2005, 05:49 PM
Does each ip only get one click forever or does it refresh after say a couple months?
Repeat visitor clicks dont count unless they are on dial up. Is this true?
Jenstar
05-23-2005, 06:06 PM
If the same person clicks one or two ads in the same day, they should be filtered out. If the same person clicks thirty ads in one day, it is a good guess that some of them will be auto-filtered out, even if they were legitimate clicks.
However, I think not allowing any more clicks from that person for months at a time is quite extreme. I would guess there is probably a 24 hour rotation or so.
Relevancy
05-23-2005, 07:05 PM
there has been no testing for this?
I have tried going back to my sites and clicking on an ad weeks later and it doesnt count as a paying click. I have enven tried testing this with other people I Know with adsense. I can test this now becasue these sites are new and do not get heavy amounts of traffic yet.
mick g
05-23-2005, 07:16 PM
I have tried going back to my sites and clicking on an ad weeks later
Well thats a sure way of getting your account terminated, have you not bothered to read the terms of service
Relevancy
05-23-2005, 07:25 PM
I don’t do that all the time, I was testing my original question out. I did not start this thread to figure out how to do click fraud, I started it to figure out the potential of return visitor clicks. Some of the sites I run will have a large portion of "regular" visitors and if they are coming and clicking on my ads and I dont get credit then I would like to know about it and maybe adjust to it so I can profit off my site better.
Plus sometimes i click on the ads on my site to make sure I even want that domain to be advertized on my site. There is nothing wrong with that. Serves 2 purposes .. my test and my site's relevancy
mick g
05-23-2005, 08:09 PM
hey you dont need to explain your reasons to me, explain it to google when your account is terminated
Relevancy
05-23-2005, 08:13 PM
So let me get your point right, what your saying is that any site owner who wants to verify the quality of links displayed on their own site will get terminated by clicking on ads everyonce in awhile? That's a little paranoid if you ask me.
Relevancy
05-23-2005, 08:17 PM
Why would you create an account today to start posting on this thread? Are your trying to scare people or do you work for Google? You dont make sense.
mick g
05-23-2005, 08:21 PM
I sugest you read where it says Prohibited Clicks
https://www.google.com/adsense/policies
Please note that clicking on your own ads for any reason is prohibited, to avoid potential inflation of advertiser costs
Now correct me if I am wrong but it does say "for any reason"
mick g
05-23-2005, 08:23 PM
I have been a member for months but not got round to posting, why do you ask, can I not post on this thread??
Relevancy
05-23-2005, 08:28 PM
I got it. Guess you are right.
Do you see me as a click fraudererer? Why are you so angry at me for testing and checking for relevancy of adsense? My little 3 clicks I did as a test didn't hurt anything nor did it rase prices or hurt the site that is paying for the ads. If my 3 clicks didnt count then what did I do wrong?
I am just saying stop treating me like a Click Fraud person when I am not. Leave your toughness act for a bar where it matters. Don't post if you are going to just be negitive
mick g
05-23-2005, 08:34 PM
I certainly was not being negative, you get one chance with your adsense account so dont blow it through a simple thing like clicking on your own adds to see if they are working....
Jenstar
05-23-2005, 10:34 PM
mick g is right, he does know his AdSense, even clicking a SINGLE ad on your site is grounds for termination. I would guess they knew you were doing it, if you login to your AdSense account with the same IP, and that is why it is discounted.
any site owner who wants to verify the quality of links displayed on their own site
If you are simply verifying the quality of links, you just cost that advertiser money - which goes into your OWN pocket - with a zero chance of conversion.
If you want to click on your ads, use the AdSense Preview tool, you can click all you want and advertisers won't lose money.
Relevancy
05-23-2005, 10:49 PM
sounds good. Guess I have to be more careful. I didnt know my few clicks for testing out the system would be a big deal. Good to know
nesalc
05-24-2005, 03:29 AM
Okey I have never bothered to read all the adsense terms, so I didn't know that I was breaking the rules when I clicked some of my own ads, so I guess it is my own fault if I get terminated.
But from observation I have seen that clicks from my ip, the same ip I use when I check my adsense is registered as a click, but with a payment of $0.0.
After observing this a few days after joining the adsense program, I concluded that this was the way they handled "owner clicks", so I have not given it any thoughts when I clicked what I thought was an interesting ad.
So what I'm saying is I'm pretty sure that you from your own computer can click all the ads you want without getting terminated.
/Claus
Jenstar
05-24-2005, 04:09 AM
So what I'm saying is I'm pretty sure that you from your own computer can click all the ads you want without getting terminated.
I am sure those who have been warned or suspended for doing just that will tend to disagree with you ;) I can't make it any clearer - don't click your own ads for any reason, even if you are genuinely interested in whatever the advertiser is advertising.
The problem also is with those who might have a different IP everytime they login, or those using ISPs such as AOL. They could theoretically be clicking ads with a different IP than the one they login with every time.
Bottom line, do not click your ads for any reason, "I didn't know" or "I thought they would be discounted automatically" is not a valid excuse. After all, you agreed to abide by the terms and policies when you signed up, and both state quite clearly that you cannot click your ads ever. So play it safe and use the preview tool, that is what it is there for :)
CaseyC
05-27-2005, 12:47 PM
I think the conversation got a little off track. I am interested in finding out more about the impact of return visitor clicks on our revenue. We get a good deal of traffic from return visitors and I am now concerned that we may not be getting paid on multiple clicks from a visitor or a visitor who leaves and comes back to our site. Is this a legitimate concern?
Jeff Martin
06-03-2005, 10:25 PM
mick g is right, he does know his AdSense, even clicking a SINGLE ad on your site is grounds for termination.
And this is yet another way G has to prevent you from finding out what EXACTLY is going on with your adsense activity. They hold all the information and they will share very little of it with you.
I think he has a serious question. If you run several different tests with differing variables and your not seeing a consistent credit for those clicks there is a problem. Of course with G's scare tactics they bully you into submission. They show what ads they want to on your site (with little you can do on a major scale), they determine when and if to credit you with the click and they determine how much to pay you (behind closed doors).
I would guess they knew you were doing it, if you login to your AdSense account with the same IP, and that is why it is discounted.
You seem to be making many assumptions in this thread Jenstar. Do you have anything in writing from a rep so we can treat these as facts and start to consider their implications?
Mick...take a deep breath and take a step back :) . We don’t need to give anyone a hard time in these forums.
mick g
06-04-2005, 01:26 AM
We don’t need to give anyone a hard time in these forums
I was not giving anyone a hard time Jeff, from the adsense terms and conditions you are asked not to click on your own ads, that is not assuming anything its stating a fact
I have spent the last few years over at webmasterworld clocking up over 1000 posts many of which are in the adsense forum where on a monthly basis we had to endure the newbie who on his first post states that he has just had his account terminated due to invalid clicks which is all the information you receive in the generic termination email
The main reasons for the termination are
1 Never click on your own adsense ads.
2 Don't encourage anyone to click on your adsense ads.
3 Don't have text saying click here to support this site. (or anything similar)
When you login to your adsense account for the first time you have to put a tick in the box and agree to the Terms of Service, the amount of publishers who do not even bother to read any of it is unbelievable, then they can't understand why they had their account terminated within a few weeks.
When your account is new you may only just reach the $100 limit per month but as time goes on and you start to earn $ 1,000's do you really want to put your account at risk for a few extra clicks from your own IP number....Nah surely not?
Jenstar
06-04-2005, 01:42 AM
You seem to be making many assumptions in this thread Jenstar.
I am not merely making assumptions, I have emailed and spoken with various AdSense reps on many occassions, even been invited by the AdSense Team to visit the Googleplex. However, they aren't going to hand over all the details of their fraudulent click preventions unless there is an NDA involved.
Yes, they do automatically discount fraudulent clicks (and yes, clicks which you make on your own AdSense ads - even if you are genuinely interested in the site itself - are considered to be fraudulent). They can also do a monthly adjustment for fraudulent clicks before your payment is processed, which some publishers have also had done in their accounts.
But as I am sure you know, neither AdSense nor Adwords will release the exact specifics of how they track/discount/remove fraudulent or invalid clicks. If they did, they would be giving the <ahem> less credible publishers </ahem> the ammunition they would need to game the system with clickbots to get the maximum $$ and number of clicks without causing too many red flags by tripping the fraudulent clicks warning and deductions.
DaveN
06-04-2005, 05:20 AM
Jenstar .. when does your NDA run out :)
http://www.jensense.com/archives/2005/03/google_adsense_1.html
one of the things I have noticed is that there are lot of Proxies are on the list and they get discounted quite quickly :) ..
DaveN