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donut
07-08-2004, 03:48 AM
This quote comes from the Link Purchasing Value topic that poor Nacho is trying to keep on topic, so I've created a new thread.

#1. Years ago I saw a TV special with Richard Pryor. It was a classic.

In one of the bits he did he said, "be proud of any ****** doing anything". That always stuck in mind as one of the most concise political statments I had ever heard. With 7 little words he made the entire black race realize they were a group with common goals. It was brilliant.

I feel the exact same way about the net promotion industry. I believe we SEOs, (whatever that is), should be proud of any SEO doing anything. We all, white, black or any other color of hat, face a VERY difficult challenge on a day by day basis. Between trying to satisy an ever-more demanding client, stay within obscure guidelines that change without notice, the endlessly frustrating and ever-more complicated algorithms, the business related problems, the complaints, the misunderstandings, the confusion, the many, many forums, newsletters, etc, etc. I think the single biggert threat to the entire industry is the political power struggles within the industry itself. By us not realizing we are all part of the same group, we erode the flimsy foundation that this industry is built on. There is plenty of money and success for us all if we ever get Madison Avenue and that ain't gonna happen as long as this silly white/black thing continues.

I believe we should all listen to Ammon Johns and realize that this is not about spam or any color of hat. It's about risk vs reward. It's about return on investment and it's about a real plan with a real objective. I believe once anyone is able to get that concept across to the majority of people in the marketing community the money will flow like a river.


Do others here agree that we need money to flow like a river by refusing to distinguish between the SEO's who work hard in the client's best interest and merging with those who simply want to take the client's money and get them banned?

Does Ammon Johns really want to be aligned with $29 all-the-search-engines-you-can-eat-traffic companies? Cause I read over at Cre8 sometimes, and I've never seen him say that. :confused:

Nacho
07-08-2004, 04:11 AM
comes from the Link Purchasing Value (http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343) topic that poor Nacho is trying so hard to keep on topic
Feeeeeuuuuu...... You got that right!! Boy, after that 25+ replies it "kicks it up another notch" on the work ". . . BAM!", but the thread is outstanding! And it keeps going and going and going . . . . (sounds like that old gum commercial :p )

To stick to this thread's topic, IMO I think that long term success in any business (SEO/SEM or other) comes from persistence, patience and lots of hard work. Any one trying to make a few bucks taking short cuts usually gets them once, twice and not so many times until they figure out to either correct themselves to envision long term success or move on to the next fast cash making project. Note that I call them "short term cash making projects" and not businesses. Again, this is my take.

Since this new topic originally started off from the Link Building forum, I highly recommend everyone to read Eric Ward's post about Short vs. Long Term Linking (http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171). It might also help answer some issues discussed here too.