New Search Engine

[clasione]

I'm releasing a new search engine into the extreamly saturated search engine market.... I purchased a custom built search engine program and made plenty of modifications to atleast get some valuable features into it...

Software was pretty good but designed by programmers that have absolutely no idea about search marketing or the importance of a directory and search engine that is built on traffic alone...

After plenty of modifications it is pretty much ready....
view it here: http://www.searchennetworks.com

Now here is my question.... It has a PPC option available in the engine which I am considering removing... I can see the writing on the wall already as far as PPC listings showing up among the search results... Many PPC engines are so clogged with results from advertisers that it actually dilutes the entire purpose of the engine itself..

What are your thoughts on the success of a new engine when measured against the fact of being either a PPC engine like genieknows OR a general search engine something like dogpile?

What, in your mind, taking into consideration the industry and where it is headed, what do you see performing better?

Should I go PPC or complete natural search?

Right now the algorithm in this engine is sharing data via XML with MSN and a combination of what is listed in it's own directory..

I am waiting for a reply back from Google on an API and such as I would much rather mix Google search results and apply a "powered" or "enhansed by Google" mention near the results...

[clasione]

I would have really liked to recieve some insight on this from some of the users here but I decided pretty much on my own to elliminate the PPC features...

There are enough ads on it already and I don't want useless ppc ads showing up first....

:)

[seobook]

can you show the contextual ppc searchfeed ads w the Google ones?

the text that you type in in the search box is hard to read on my monitor.

[clasione]

Right now, search feed is on top and google is to the right...

Thats with the pppc function off.. If I were to turn the ppc feature on, their would be searchfeed on top, google on the right and then ppc in the actuall results.....

I decided to elliminate the additional ppc setting leaving search feed and google as the only monetary gain....

[clasione]

can you show the contextual ppc searchfeed ads w the Google ones?

the text that you type in in the search box is hard to read on my monitor.


Are you using firefox?

I had someone else comment on that... I believe they were using firefox.

[clasione]

Searchen Networks

I have been making many improvements to the Searchen Networks engine and I urge everyone to feel free and submit your sites to directory which is free for everyone. (please no low quality sites or sites that are not of value to the general public)

Many changes have been made based on user feedback...
Comments, suggestions, feedback all wanted for this project....

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[yeoaik]

clasione,

You have a nice site...:)
Just tested your news search engine and would like to give some feedback.

For example search for keywords britney spears without the "", then the page will be redirected to the page where you can see britney+spears keywords in the search box and the news search results. (shows perfectly)

Now, search again for keyword paris hilton without the "", the page is no longer redirected to itself but redirected to the images look-up page and showed paris hilton related images. After that press the News tab next to the Images tab, the news search results show perfectly...:) (need to catch this bug)

Next, search for any keywords with "", the search doesnt work. (need to fix)

Hope this feedback helps...:)

[clasione]

Helps BIGTIME..... Thank you!!!!! :)

[yeoaik]

Great...It is working fine now...:)

[Robert_Charlton]

clasione - Yes, it is a nice little site. It's fast and clean. Definitely don't think about mixing ads into your serps. That would drive knowledgeable users away big time.

Re search features... I couldn't get quotation marks to stick around any search phrases to do exact searches.

Also, it bothers me that you return only 8 crawler-based results on your first page... and you also have a numbering problem. You're returning two clearly-labelled sponsored results at the top of page one, numbered as 1 & 2, and then you start the Web Results, which are numbered as 1-8; but on the second page your results are numbered 11-20. Definitely something to straighten out.

Good luck with the site.

[clasione]

Thanks for your feedback Rob, we're working on these issues now.... :)

[clasione]

New Toolbar Added:

http://www.searchennetworks.com/Downloads/toolbar_download.gif

:)

[clasione]

Searchen Makes DMOZ: :)

http://dmoz.com/Computers/Internet/Web_Design_and_Development/Promotion/Pay-Per-Click_Advertising/Search_Engines/

[seobook]

Searchen Makes DMOZ: :)
I am surprised they put it in that category.

with as anal as some DMOZ editors are I am surprised you would post about that link here.

[clasione]

It was actually placed very well...

It's a perfect cat.... description is exactly what the engine does and the catagory fits...

It is a pay-per-click engine that mixes results....

[seobook]

It was actually placed very well...

It's a perfect cat.... description is exactly what the engine does and the catagory fits...

It is a pay-per-click engine that mixes results....
but since it is new I would be more inclined to put it under the small scale category
http://dmoz.com/Computers/Internet/Web_Design_and_Development/Promotion/Pay-Per-Click_Advertising/Search_Engines/Small-Scale/
yours combines google ads and searchfeed and does not have many direct PPC sales from the searches I performed.

[clasione]

I do see where your coming from now though...

We're still a newer engine, but we do have acounts signed up and we're definetly not targeting the small scale market.... We're working extreamly hard on creating a useable product and it is beginning to come together despite the average difficulties with such sites.

The Searchen Networks company is very established in the market and we're going far with our product.... A little help from DMOZ, much appreciated....

As you can see we're a bit more advanced then most of the smaller scale sites in the cat you speak of....

Anyhow, point well taken Aaron...

[seobook]

yeah, I wasn't really trying to be a jerk to you, just saying that some people take pride in others not doing well.

remember when RubberStamped was listed in DMOZ and then they removed it (and I think they even lessened the editing rights of the original founder of DMOZ!).

[clasione]

I know....

Trust me... I appreciate your thoughts and insight Aaron.... You know the business well.....

I also know that some people have trouble with others hard work coming together... I didn't even think about what you were suggesting about posting this... Just considered it an interesting development for us...

but your right again.... you have to look at things from every possible angle...