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Carlos Chacón
01-30-2005, 01:18 AM
Is Yahoo! helping those sites who uses SPAM ("black hat SEO Techniques")?
I have notice some sites ranking in the top ten in a very good search ...but "hidden keywords" for example.

I am not agree doing these kind of stuffs...
How we can inform about that? How long time it can take it?
I used this link: http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/ysearch/cgi_reportsearchspam but the sites still there :0(

In other words; Is Yahoo! taking care about spammers sites?

detlev
01-30-2005, 04:24 AM
Hi there,

Hidden text certainly goes against Yahoo!'s content guidelines as it does all major search engines. If after looking at the page they deem it as hurting their search user experience, it should be removed after a short while. I haven't submitted a page as spam to Yahoo! using their feedback mechanism, but I would expect from other experience it would probably take them a week to 10 days.

Hope this helps,
-detlev

Mikkel deMib Svendsen
01-30-2005, 06:04 AM
One thing to note is, as Detlev say, that the "spam" actually have to decrease the user experience. They may use spammy techniques but if the keyword search that actually brings them to the top is very relevant for the page it is unlikely that Yahoo will remove it. In other words, if the users are happy why should Yahoo do anything?

Carlos Chacón
01-30-2005, 06:34 PM
One thing to note is, as Detlev say, that the "spam" actually have to decrease the user experience. They may use spammy techniques but if the keyword search that actually brings them to the top is very relevant for the page it is unlikely that Yahoo will remove it. In other words, if the users are happy why should Yahoo do anything?
I understand your point of view, but I am not agreeing with get top ranking in a good search keyword...with spam techniques!

It still be a spamming site.. :confused:

Mikkel deMib Svendsen
01-30-2005, 07:14 PM
It still be a spamming site..

In my experience search engines focus on results more than whatever specific technique is being used. Some widely used and easy to precisely detect spam-techniques may however be automatically used to penalize or remove sites - but far from all. And even the automatic spam-removal technology is never perfect.

With the billions of records and searches it is very understandable why search engines chose to focus on what actually impact the users. Why fix a problem no users see - or only very few? :)

detlev
01-30-2005, 07:46 PM
In my experience search engines focus on results more than whatever specific technique is being used.

This is absolutely true and why Mikkel pointed it out from my text to elaborate. I was hinting that the search engine will only remove it if it is spam and of no use to the search experience.

If CNN.com has a number one for the query 'tv news' but there was a little hidden text on the page, no search engine in their right mind would remove the listing. It may sound a little frustrating because we won't know where the line is drawn. It is ultimately up to the search engine rep that looks at the listing and determines its value. All you can do is submit the information. You will be more successful if you do it from the perspective that the listing hurts the search user experience. If it is true, then explain why and it may get better attention.

Hope this helps,
-detlev