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BabaBooey
12-06-2004, 09:55 PM
I have a well established site that's been around since 1997 and is very Google friendly. Over the past year or so, I've been having problems getting any of my new client's websites to come up within the Google ranks. Title and content is relevant but the new sites are nearly invisible.
I decided to create a link exchange with about a dozen of my clients, leveraging the good search results that I do get from my older site. It has been several months and the link exchange has done little to no good whatsoever. It hasn't helped anyone's rankings and very few of the links are showing up using "link:www.url.com" or any of the online link tools.
Google has the absolute worst results of all. I have hundreds of links coming into my site but Google only shows a couple dozen. Some of my clients are even worse off as Google shows them with zero link popularity.
What happened to Google's link popularity consideration? Is that now gone the way of keyword meta-tags? I am also doubtful of the "page title in relation to page content" rules that Google supposedly uses to rank pages. It seems to work for older websites but not anything created in the last 6-12 months.
Meanwhile, there are tons of garbage sites such as <snip> that merely put you into a loop of links that take forever to drill down to something relevant (and most often lead to a dead end). How are these clowns coming up tops in the searches when legitimate sites with real content are almost impossible to find? Doesn't appear to be anything special in their page source, meta-tags and most of their "reciprocal links" are within their own sites.

Mel
12-07-2004, 01:12 AM
I suggest that you look up posts here and on other forums on the topic of Sandboxing, which is preventing new sites from ranking as they normally would until the sites age for a few months.

Marcia
12-07-2004, 01:44 AM
I have hundreds of links coming into my site but Google only shows a couple dozen. Some of my clients are even worse off as Google shows them with zero link popularity.
What happened to Google's link popularity consideration?
Mel is right about researching on the alleged "sandbox" phenomenon, and aside from that, Google knows about all links but simply isn't showing them any more.

I'd assume that's so because showing them to webmasters and SEO's, the only ones who really look up backlinks, proved to be unproductive in their estimation. They've not said that, it's just my personal assumption based on trying to figure out their reasoning for removing the capability.

bobmutch
12-11-2004, 12:40 PM
BabaBooey: New links can be "sandboxed" for up to 90 days. Also it is difficult to get good Rankings on Google for new sites.

I would suggest you add your site and your clients sites to a number of the directories. For the time being these links are Google-blessed and can be quite helpful.

Here are a few resources you should consider reading.
Link Building 101 http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=2616
Directory Submissions 101 http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=2783
Sandbox http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showpost.php?p=15679&postcount=2