View Full Version : Shared IP vs dedicated IP
msaqibansari
09-17-2007, 03:32 AM
Is shared ip is better than dedicated ip and what are the flaws of shared and dedicated IP? Please explan.
whitehat
09-17-2007, 04:44 AM
Is shared ip is better than dedicated ip and what are the flaws of shared and dedicated IP? Please explan.
Better for what?
Shared IP is normally cheaper.. because if its a shared server then it could have many other websites running on it.
But they are (if hardware was equal) much more susceptable to crashes and so on due to the fact that if 50 sites exist and one fails or gets DDOSd this has an effect on all the other sites.
Or the httpd service or mysqld service can crash due to intense loads if the server is at its limit.
Also, if someons is doing black hat SEpO on the server and their domain gets blacklisted.....so may the IP address if the big G believes there are more spam sites and that the IP is a Spam IP.
There are no set rules Im aware of for that but I have heard of people being banned on shared IPs and they have done nothing wrong.
briche
10-11-2007, 03:27 PM
yes, shared ip cheap but it cause so a little trouble on it.
megri
10-16-2007, 03:37 PM
From SEO point is essential to have different IP for different sites if they are related with each other at least different C-Class. Search engine give importance to inbound links from different C-Class IP
Jazajay
10-21-2007, 04:06 PM
Their is only one possible penalty for being hosted on a shared IP and it is extremely unlikely and as long as you are not doing it on purpose you have 1 in a billion chance of it happening to you, you would have to be so unlucky.
This is that you do some natural linking and they all end up on your c block/same sever. I told you it was unlikly. Sites get banned not IP address.
Why?
Well say a sever was running 20-30 innocent sites one person gets banned ever one would suffer. With that many spam sites out there this would be a daily occurance for hundreds of sites, it's not plausible to do this when Google can just blacklist that one site. Also it would be just 2 easy for a competitor to set up on your server pull off a blatant blackhat technique and get you banned.
This is due to spammers creating x amounts of sites on 1 server then linking them all together to increase rankings. As long as you don't do this you will be fine.
Severs only crash if you go with a dodgey company. Mines never crashed, and never returned anything but a 200 my onsites tracking is second to none an I track everything to what codes get returned.
Dedicated hosting is expensive but worth it from a security point of view. This is because a shared sever is exactly that shared so someone else on the same sever can access your files if they know what they are doing. This is rare but it could be detrimental to your SEO if some files where changed and external links where added.
Unless you have annoyed a hacker on your sever honestly don't worry.
Shared is not treated any different from dedicated. At the same time, it is better not to link to sites on the same c-class.
Marcia
10-22-2007, 05:02 AM
Sites can be on the exact same hosting box with dedicated IP or shared IP. It isn't so much the specific IP, it's the c-block that you want to be different, if you want them to be different.
BuckfastMonk
10-22-2007, 11:58 AM
@ Beu and Marcia. True. I see cases daily in a few adult verticals were sites are using the same box to x promote their own websites. I'm talking hundreds of websites here not just a few. Does it help them? I Can't tell unless I try it myself but it certainly appears that it is not doing them any harm
NOTE. I DONT ADVISE ANYONE TO DO THIS - I"M SPEAKING OUT LOUD AND MAKING AN OBSERVATION
@ Beu and Marcia. True. I see cases daily in a few adult verticals were sites are using the same box to x promote their own websites. I'm talking hundreds of websites here not just a few. Does it help them? I Can't tell unless I try it myself but it certainly appears that it is not doing them any harm
NOTE. I DONT ADVISE ANYONE TO DO THIS - I"M SPEAKING OUT LOUD AND MAKING AN OBSERVATION
Feel free to give it a try and see what happens! I can't think of a way this would help but I can see a potential for harm.
see:
http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=19616
http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/archives/2007/03/which_is_better.html
and #5:
http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/03/1352239
AussieWebmaster
10-22-2007, 05:54 PM
you can have the same server but have different IP blocks for the domains.... that is what you should do if sharing the hosting
@ BuckfastMonk
When you say the "same box" do you mean the same IP?
When you say "to promote their own websites" do you mean they are linking to their own websites from their own websites on another box (server), another block and/or another IP? :confused:
Marcia
10-23-2007, 12:11 AM
BTW, Yahoo has been known to ban whole C-blocks or servers. It's much more efficient that way.
Marcia
10-23-2007, 06:44 AM
Incidentally, that /. interview with Craig Silverstein was over five years ago. That's ancient history.
BuckfastMonk
10-23-2007, 07:18 AM
They are all hosted on the same dedicated server using the same class C IP blocks and yes, they are linking out to there own sites from each of their domains - over 300 at last count.
I'm not moaning about this because I do it myself (just not as excessive as this).
Again, just to clarify, I am not suggesting anyone try this. I'm just making a point that it appears that this can still slip through, for a while at least.
AussieWebmaster
10-23-2007, 11:05 AM
Incidentally, that /. interview with Craig Silverstein was over five years ago. That's ancient history.
some things never change... :)
some things never change... :)
True and good point Marcia! That is kind of why I'm supprised these guys BuckfastMonk is talking about haven't gotten nailed yet! Seems like the engines would have this one DOWN to an art and science by now!:)