Is Wordtracker the end all, be all?

[Brandi]

Are there any other programs out there that allow the keyword tracking of Wordtracker?

Does anyone have a favorite?

Thanks,
Brandi

[seobook]

hi Brandi
welcome to the forums :)
I like
http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/suggestion/

there are lots of ways to do keyword research...related search terms, google sets, looking for keywords in a spammed out guestbook or blog, check referer logs, etc...

[greenleaves]

I found that the url posted by seobook is the best. When I do more indepth research I combine the results with the ones provided here:
https://adwords.google.com/select/main?cmd=KeywordSandbox
http://conversion.7search.com/scripts/advertisertools/keywordsuggestion.aspx

Regards

[creativecraig]

If you have a site search function and you have control over it make a record of all searches done, look through and the find out what people are looking for and build pages around it. Then you can make pages for the users ;)

Atomz send you a report weekly informing you of the searches done (the free version do anyway). I have been using them as part of keyword research for a while now.

[sem4u]

Some more good ones:

Overture UK: http://inventory.uk.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/

Overture US: http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/

Espotting UK: https://www.espotting.com/popups/keywordgenbox.asp

[James Colborn]

I've been testing a number of tools lately and I've tried a few tools that are working relatively well.

The first, AdWords Clever Wizard (www.cleverstat.com) is good and I've been using it a lot lately but I'm having trouble with the fact it struggles with Pluralized and Singular Terms.

The second, WebCEO http://www.websiteceo.com), is one of the latest one's I'm currently looking at but it's very confusing from the onset. I'm not holding my breath.

I must admit that both Google and Overture provide the stongest tools in the market (Overture being the better of the two) and from there campaigns can be created going forwards.

JC.

[mcanerin]

Of course I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that actually running an AdWords or Overture PPC campaign for even a short while can get you all sorts of great information that you can then use for organic optimization.

Ian

[mcanerin]

On a separate note, be very cautious about trusting the KEI numbers from Wordtracker. I use them for some very specific things, but would NEVER actually blindly trust them, or base a campaign on them.

IMO, any KEI number above 100 or below 1, or with less than 50 searches per month, is so suspect I would strongly urge ignoring it unless you have some sort of additional supportive information.

One other thing, your web server Logs are usually a goldmine of information.

Ian

[Marcia]

Info about webceo over here

Keywords in URLs (http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=2526)

Once starting to get some traffic for a site, daily watching of the logs or stats is a literal goldmine for keyword research, as long as the site is semantically diverse you can pick up on keyword combinations you never dreamed of.

[LeaseCompare]

Once you have the keywords is there a way to keep track of them along with titles and descriptions for each SE offline? Is there a special program for this or should I just continue using Excel?

Thanks in advance for any comments.

-Tarry

[Nacho]

Most of those tools listed above primarily go by the seed keyword as a base (KW1) and a bunch of KW2s added before or after. On-Topic Analysis (http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=2031) is the future of keyword generation, IMO.

[trellian]

You can also try our more advanced keyword tool called Keyword Discovery:http://www.keyworddiscovery.com/

Keeps historical data for 12 months to track seasonal trends.

Cheers
David

[Nacho]

Hello David!

Can you please tell a bit more about the sources to these search volumes? As we all know, conversion rates vary significantly between different search engines because users have different behaviors (browsing vs. shopping vs. buying vs. _____ vs. ______ , etc....). In order to understand the true value of your tool -- which is outstanding in concept BTW -- we need to understand it's source because this:
Search over 11 billion search terms, compiled from over 37 search engines for the last 12 months.
is not enough to understand that, IMO.

Thanks!

[lmitcun]

I have been trialing WEBCEO for a client and found it very useful. Needs a bit of startup investment but once you get over the basics provides user friendly results.

[Marcia]

And where does webceo get their keyword information from that equals what overture or worktracker would have? What search engine stats do they have access to or use?

BTW, there is NO WAY I believe that ANY automated software can come near the human brain and eye looking at SERPs and analyzing when there are updates and seeing what fine tuning is needed for algo changes.

For example - Yahoo had an update the 1st of this month - with several things that changed. Someone is going to tell me that some software is going to know what changed in the algo, and is going to tell on the spot, within a day or a few days, what's needed to tweak pages to push them up a few notches? Or tell what factors caused pages to fall or move up?

I hardly think so.

[andrewgoodman]

Of course I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that actually running an AdWords or Overture PPC campaign for even a short while can get you all sorts of great information that you can then use for organic optimization.

Ian

Bing!

(oh, that post is too short, it won't take it)

Bing! Bing!