View Full Version : Google DownGrades Sites with Adsense?
SkyLite
07-04-2007, 07:15 PM
Yes....the data show that the longer you use adsense on your website, the more your site is downgraded in the natural serps. Either its a direct result or maybe an indirect result due to the ads taking up PRIME spots on your site. Or maybe because the higher the bounce factor, the worse you do in rankings.
Yes....the data show that the longer you use adsense on your website, the more your site is downgraded in the natural serps. Either its a direct result or maybe an indirect result due to the ads taking up PRIME spots on your site. Or maybe because the higher the bounce factor, the worse you do in rankings.
What data shows this?
mick g
07-05-2007, 01:26 PM
what data have you based this on SkyLite ?
odidis
07-20-2007, 05:04 PM
Hi all,
SkyLite does not say which data he based his comment, so let me say as follows:
There is no reason why Google should down grade a site because of Adsense, after all, Google needs your site as an extension of its advertising service to its clients. However, Google can down grade a site if the webmaster does not do things right. We should all remember that Google is serving Advertiser who want value for their money.
If your site has pages with unique contents and relevant keywords, including long-tail and LSI keywords, you site will be indexed by Google and your site will show up for relevant search terms much more frequently than without these elements.
As a Google adsense publisher you are in partnership with Google, but remember that there are terms you must adhere to. Believe me, your site can stay indexed forever if you did the right thing in the first instance by optimizing your site correctly, both on-page and off-page.
For instance, I have the first Adsense site I created two years ago, just 7 pages on a free host, that still brings me reasonable Adsense clicks till date on a daily basis, and it has a page rank of 4.
<snip>Self-promotion removed.</snip>
NewKidOnTheBlock
07-20-2007, 05:44 PM
If I was a search engineer, I would probably look into using adsense-on-website as a signal of bad quality LOL I mean seriously, I would. However I would also be interested in knowing on what data this conclusion is based on.
Marcia
07-21-2007, 03:55 PM
LSI keywordsLSI is a technology, not a semantic definition. There is no such thing as "LSI keywords," that's just something that's a new buzzword being used as a marketing tool.
TxDon
07-21-2007, 04:50 PM
If Google really pushed down on sites with Adsense, I'd have a few 6 and 7 year old sites that are at the top of SERPS in real trouble.
I'd be interested in seeing the data he's talking about.
TxDon
NewKidOnTheBlock
07-22-2007, 04:57 PM
LSI is a technology, not a semantic definition. There is no such thing as "LSI keywords," that's just something that's a new buzzword being used as a marketing tool.
So true. On another forum somebody was looking for an SEO and someone else promoted his services saying he did "LSI based SEO".
odidis
07-23-2007, 07:20 AM
Yes, LSI is a technology that determines certain keyword pharases as themed with your main keyword. Such keywords are what is termed LSI Keywords.
glengara
07-23-2007, 10:16 AM
"There is no reason why Google should down grade a site because of Adsense"
FWIW I've come across informational sites that have dropped when they've added AS, they were sailing pretty close to the wind in linkage terms but were getting away with it.
I also notice "intent" is increasingly being quoted as a factor in determining spam, AS could be seen as a motive, helping to remove doubts about the intent.
sportsguy
07-24-2007, 01:10 PM
If I was a search engineer, I would probably look into using adsense-on-website as a signal of bad quality LOL I mean seriously, I would. However I would also be interested in knowing on what data this conclusion is based on.
Why would you see sites using Adsense as being of low quality?
They'd likely be of higher quality, in fact, in terms of value to the user. After all, the ads show relevant links to other related-topic sites.
If your view is simply that sites selling ad space are higher quality, I'll suggest that most sites with image ads perform at a lower rate than Adsense ads, AND, they're likely form an affiliate program.
As for the original topic, I think the Op was baiting for responses on this subject - unless they can actually point to the data, and it's legit, this whole point is garbage, IMO.
Using Adsense is not going to push you lower in the SERPs and more than leaving the light on in the bathroom will help you rank better...
idahoguy
08-14-2007, 05:32 PM
Never heard of this before... Google downgrading sites with Adsense. Not true, where is the proof of this? I've checked many of our domains and competitors, nothing has been downgraded. You may want to start of the post by stating... "has anyone heard of..." unless there is concrete evidence.
Google downgrade for placing there advertising promotions and venues on your site...nah. That would seem a bit counter productive I would think.
Marcia
08-26-2007, 05:48 PM
Yes, LSI is a technology that determines certain keyword pharases as themed with your main keyword. Such keywords are what is termed LSI Keywords.No, they aren't called that (except by some people trying to use the phrase as a gimmick to market themselves). LSI = SVD (Singular Value Decomposition)
From Dr. E. Garcia:
Exposing "LSI based" Snakeoil Marketers. (http://www.miislita.com/information-retrieval-tutorial/svd-lsi-tutorial-4-lsi-how-to-calculations.html#marketers)
TheSkepticGuy
08-27-2007, 03:48 PM
Yes....the data show that the longer you use adsense on your website, the more your site is downgraded in the natural serps.
I'd tend to believe this might be the case only in poor page-design or perhaps even broken HTML that interrupts the automated spider, but not the human browser.
We've been using AdSense for four years, and our Google results are rock-solid with more than 750,000 visits on over 250,000 terms in the past 30 days. Our Yahoo results are a different matter, however.
Have you viewed your pages on a text-only legacy browser? That can often show problem-areas that may have an effect on indexing.
Reflection
08-29-2007, 05:02 AM
hi all,
this is true to some extent that AS sites are falling on the ground, but if we see from the other site of this issue then few other AS sites are growing up. so we can not say that AS in the site is the cause of degradation in terms of poor result. cause of site degradation may be any thing.
hawash
09-06-2007, 08:00 AM
what about page views
I know that adsense reduce page views when people go click and leve the website
AussieWebmaster
09-07-2007, 08:51 PM
No, they aren't called that (except by some people trying to use the phrase as a gimmick to market themselves). LSI = SVD (Singular Value Decomposition)
From Dr. E. Garcia:
Exposing "LSI based" Snakeoil Marketers. (http://www.miislita.com/information-retrieval-tutorial/svd-lsi-tutorial-4-lsi-how-to-calculations.html#marketers)
Got to love orion's view point
Yes....the data show that the longer you use adsense on your website, the more your site is downgraded in the natural serps. Either its a direct result or maybe an indirect result due to the ads taking up PRIME spots on your site. Or maybe because the higher the bounce factor, the worse you do in rankings.
Sorry, but it doesn't make to much sense (from a logical point of view). It's like shooting in your own leg. Why Google will downgrade all AS websites? If it will do this then the hardest hit will be ... Google b/c they will make less money (less page views in the AS websites => less clicks => less money for Google).
Reflection
10-31-2007, 07:33 AM
Sites are upgraded or degraded that depends upon their performances and the ethical way they using. Google Adsense is for improving your business and getting more ROI.
Some sites forget SEO while doing adsense. I think this is the possible cause for their degradation.
SEO is a contineous process, and it should be continued slowly and steadly side by side with adsense.
kevindy
11-11-2007, 02:14 PM
looking for an SEO tips
AussieWebmaster
11-12-2007, 11:35 AM
looking for an SEO tips
welcome to the board... just keep reading... the forums and the blogs
darsh39
11-14-2007, 10:51 PM
The reason for this problem is the longer ur absence from your site the more your site will go downward..
Reflection
11-27-2007, 07:43 AM
Yes, keep updating your site regularly. Updating contents regularly will give your site freshness. Navigate your site properly.Doing this your site will not degrade. After that go on adsense.
Rhuby
11-27-2007, 01:26 PM
It's definitely important to keep your site updated. Everyone keeps on checking any site to know what he/she wants to know. As for me, I've been visiting several sites like this one,<snip> etc. Thanks! ;)
AnthonyCea
11-27-2007, 01:34 PM
This is not logical, if anything Yahoo and Microsoft will take down sites with Adsense on them, not Google.
Google is reluctant to discuss this topic and how they rank sites with Adsense, in addition many webmasters think G plays games with Adwords advertisers in their algos.
We can only speculate about these things, Google will never tell you how they incorporate advertising related issues within their algorithms when it comes to how organic search results stack up.
marketraisecorp
11-28-2007, 06:05 AM
Yes....the data show that the longer you use adsense on your website, the more your site is downgraded in the natural serps. Either its a direct result or maybe an indirect result due to the ads taking up PRIME spots on your site. Or maybe because the higher the bounce factor, the worse you do in rankings.
Well I don't think so .As after the last crawl made by Google for PR and backlinks it has made it clear that those who had gone in for paid listings would end up loosing their PR,backlinks and a fall in their SERP'S if they don't use their adsense account.All Google tried saying is that to rank in Google's good books get an adsense account asap or renew it if the old one has expired.
AussieWebmaster
11-28-2007, 11:28 AM
SkyLite - that is one conspiracy theory that has been long discredited
AnthonyCea
11-28-2007, 11:40 AM
Can you elaborate on this Aussie ?
AussieWebmaster
11-28-2007, 11:49 AM
Google does not downgrade sites that have adsense.... what people are seeing is the arbitrage sites, the MFA sites and all those people using adsense are being downgraded - but not for having adsense but everything else they are doing.
Reflection
12-12-2007, 08:06 AM
Yes, you are right Aussie.
Google is also downgraded the PR of sites having reciprocal and paid links.