View Full Version : Don't waste your time and money to submit your websites to all the web directories
Vahid
02-14-2007, 03:01 PM
There are a few web directories that it will be good if you can have your website listed on them but it can be considered as over-optimization when most of the incoming links to your website are from web directories.
In addition to DMOZ and Yahoo directory, there are 8 other web directories that are good to have your website listed on them. I don't know if I am allowed to list them here or not but just keep in your mind that you should not spend any time and money on submitting your website to hundreds of other web directories you find.
Yahoo directory is also very expensive. I have received traffic through it but I believe it doesn't worth not for the traffic and not for the link popularity.
Cheers!
MattUK
02-15-2007, 05:05 AM
Which other directories do you recommend Vahid?
I believe it's okay to name names as long as it's not self promotional or post live links.
Vahid
02-15-2007, 10:56 AM
Hi Matt,
Ok I tell you what directories do worth spending time and money to list your websites on them. I hope moderators do not think that any of them are mine. None of the below web directories are mine and I do not want to advertise for them.
In addition to the DMOZ that every body knows it importance, I recommend only 8 web directories:
http://sbd.bcentral.com (this is the MSN web directory)
http://botw.org
http://www.business.com
http://www.jayde.com
http://www.gimpsy.com
http://www.goguides.org
http://www.joeant.com
http://www.webdirectory.com
As I said I do not recommend the Yahoo directory at all because it is too expensive and it doesn't worth the traffic and backlink it gives to your website.
Hope this helps. :)
There are a few web directories that it will be good if you can have your website listed on them but it can be considered as over-optimization when most of the incoming links to your website are from web directories.Where did that come from? What evidence do you have for it? I think you have no idea and made it up.
montyauto
02-27-2007, 05:49 AM
Where did that come from? What evidence do you have for it? I think you have no idea and made it up.
I would think so, any personal recommendation without back up should considered as subjective opinion or suggestion only.
Vahid
02-27-2007, 09:01 PM
Where did that come from? What evidence do you have for it? I think you have no idea and made it up.
If you check the Google Webmaster Guidelines, you will see that only DMOZ and Yahoo directory is recommended by Google.
Yes they are, but please explain where you got the 'over-optimization' from if you have lots of directory links. I still think you mae it up.
Vahid
02-27-2007, 11:08 PM
Yes they are, but please explain where you got the 'over-optimization' from if you have lots of directory links. I still think you mae it up.
Over-optimization has two aspects: Internal and External
Internal:
Keyword stuffing, high keyword density and ... .
External:
- Too many reciprocal links.
- Too many links with the same anchor text.
- Too many links from the same resource like web directories.
About 1.5 year ago, Google banned 95% of web directories because there were too many of them. Many of them were popular directories like URL.biz.
What does that mean?
It means Google is against having too many web directories. If you think, you will become realized that they really have no use for internet users. We already have a few good directories and they are enough.
So Google doesn't like them. Now what if most of the incoming links of a website to be from the websites that Google doesn't like?
That website will be penalized.
It means Google is against having too many web directoriesWhat a load of rubbish. You have absolutly no idea if this is the case or not. You are making it up.
atlanta404
02-28-2007, 05:40 PM
So does everyone agree that the directories listed above are valuable?
Thanks! This is a helpful thread.
L
mick g
03-01-2007, 04:37 AM
( sbd.bcentral.com this is the MSN web directory)
this directory stopped taking new submissions as of November 15, 2006
the rest of your directory list posted above is valuable but by no means the be all and end all of a full list of directories to submit your site to
I certainly would not of worded it by saying google removed directories from their database because they don't like web directories are against them, they have been removed because they were either a dmoz clone, a directory what has scraped the data from other sites or is a duplicate of another directory already indexed, the only bit you got right with your statement is it was 18 about months ago
stoner3221
03-01-2007, 05:15 PM
Over-optimization has two aspects: Internal and External
Internal:
Keyword stuffing, high keyword density and ... .
External:
- Too many reciprocal links.
- Too many links with the same anchor text.
- Too many links from the same resource like web directories.
About 1.5 year ago, Google banned 95% of web directories because there were too many of them. Many of them were popular directories like URL.biz.
What does that mean?
It means Google is against having too many web directories. If you think, you will become realized that they really have no use for internet users. We already have a few good directories and they are enough.
So Google doesn't like them. Now what if most of the incoming links of a website to be from the websites that Google doesn't like?
That website will be penalized.
Directories that were penalized by Google were not penalized for their being too many directories. They were penalized for lacking quality content if any at all and some for buying links specifically for developing page rank. Others had their sites plastered with ROS advertising. Directories can not buy or sell page rank and for many that was the basic problem. Still today many directories have good page rank due to good marketing but the cached pages are very low and do not offer most submitters any link value. Checking the search engine saturation of a directory and the last date Google visited the topic you will be submitted to is a good indication of the directories value to you.
That still does not explain Vahid silly claim that your site would be penalized if it had a link from one of those directories.
B-Double-U
03-01-2007, 09:20 PM
I'm not sure I'm in line with the "Big 8" ...
JEccles
03-02-2007, 10:15 AM
OK - what I don't like about the sites that were recommended, is that they all require a cash output in order to list. All except Jayde. There are so many directories out there where you can list for free, why pay? I'm already spending money with Google Adwords and Yahoo, with few conversions. I'm not throwing more money into the pit.
stoner3221
03-02-2007, 10:48 AM
That still does not explain Vahid silly claim that your site would be penalized if it had a link from one of those directories.
A submission to a penalized directory will not harm the submitter’s website in any way. The submission will however not carry link value. It would be a great black marketing tool if you could add your competitor’s website to a lot of penalized directories or websites and the search engines have insured this practice will never evolve.
Marketing Guy
03-02-2007, 11:16 AM
A submission to a penalized directory will not harm the submitter’s website in any way.
Stoner is spot on.
While directory links may have less value than they once did, they still hold some value. I think the case of off site over optimisation is more likely to be a problem with the rate at which you acquire links rather than the sources (although the classic "bad neighbourhood" issue still applies as well).
As Stoner says, it would be far too easy to screw your competitors if all it took was submitting them to loads of directories.
There are so many directories out there where you can list for free, why pay?
If you have the budget to spend, then I would still go for it - the really good directories are worth paying for in terms of link weight IMO, but free directories are reasonable alternative, although greater numbers of submissions are needed to make a difference.
Some other paid directories also worth a shot:
- Business.com
- directory.v7n.com
- Sevenseek.com
And I would also recommend hunting down industry specific directories, particularly in less "SEO popular" areas - these can be goldmines as they sit under the radar of most web directory lists.
MG
Marketing Guy
03-02-2007, 11:30 AM
I should probably add to be clear that while there is some value in directory links, they should not form the bulk of a decent link building strategy. In terms of "value", everything is relative to everything else you do - Title tags are "valuable" but alone (or over optimised) the value is minimal and can even be detrimental.
here another good dirs that u need to consider too .
www.avivadirectory.com
www.alivedirectory.com
solidghost
03-16-2007, 01:37 AM
Too many links from the same resource like web directories
What do you mean by same resource?
ewc21
03-16-2007, 02:54 AM
Don't waste your time and money to submit your websites to all the web directories
I think your title is a sweeping statement which IMO is incorrect.
solidghost
03-16-2007, 11:26 PM
I think a better title would be "Don't waste your time and money to submit your websites to link farms"?
mick g
03-17-2007, 01:00 AM
To be honest it would be nice if the original poster would make a reply to any of the comments made on this thread, its one thing making a statement like he/she has but to ignore all the replies shows you was ignorant of the subject in the first place.
You are still posting on other threads on search engine watch so it's not like you have has stopped posting here, plus you have posted on another forum 2 weeks later which differs from the statement you posted posted here
whats this all about ?
is it another case of misinformation being posted around the web or just a simple mistake of which the original poster is too embarrassed to appoligise for
huh which is it going to be ? because you could not even be bothered to respond to the other forum posting either
BuckfastMonk
03-17-2007, 04:08 PM
Looks like a hit and run!
Marcia
03-18-2007, 04:30 AM
It still does make a good topic for discussion among the members who are participating, regardless of who isn't returning or posting in the thread again..
mick g
03-18-2007, 04:45 AM
thats true marcia but you cant go running around the web posting bold statements on forums and not be able to back up what you have posted and then disregard any responses.
we can all do that by signing up on forums with false names and post even more misinformation but thats not what forums are about.
don't get me wrong this is certainly not to belittle anyone, I would just like a reply, if you make a mistake then anyone should be given the opportunity to make it right
purdue512
03-19-2007, 02:41 PM
Let's say I've decided not to pay for any submissions and want to do this on the cheap. So I will read all the boards like this one and go register where I can. I'll keep a spreadsheet so I know where I've been. I'm putting time into it every day.
What is a realistic time-frame until I believe I could have my site at 1,000 unique users per day? Never?
BuckfastMonk
03-20-2007, 07:27 AM
I would answer that by asking you "how long is a piece of string?"
You could do this in a month, 6 months or 6 years. The point I am trying to make is that it will be dependent on how hard you work at it.
kneoteric
03-20-2007, 08:37 AM
What is a realistic time-frame until I believe I could have my site at 1,000 unique users per day? Never?
This achievement would depend on the aggressiveness of your promotional strategies. My suggestion to you is, do not hurry. Be steady in your approach. Add quality to your campaign (SEO, PPC...). Keep adding good articles to your site, and submit them to veritable resources. I will not be surprised if you attain this feat in a month's time.
Good luck!