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superdan
01-02-2007, 06:24 PM
Hi all,
first of all sorry for my (very very) bad english (im an italian seo, so ive learned this language only by internet).
Im so happy and very proud that i can talk with you and maybe be readed even by Mr Cutts!
I really hope that i can explain my doubts even with this language "handicap".
So let me talk about very strange things that i found in Google. Everybody say that PR is updated every 3-4 months due to "dont make crazy webmasters" or something like that (yes i miss the dear dear monthly GDance so much!).
It sounds like a strange reason don't you think? I know PR is NO-MORE-SO-MUCH-IMPORTANT-LIKE-IN-THE-PAST, but its like i dont update nasdaq values so business man dont go crazy! I saw also some other strange "temporal" things. I have a forum so (the difference between a site) i can see exactly what posts have a PR update in values, and also the date of these posts...and i see this fact: if the PR values are visible the first time (i mean in forst datacenters) in G (for example) in 21/02/2006, The LAST posts with a PR assigned of my forum have the date (7/1/2006)..MM..One month of distance? Why? And this for all the last TOTAL PR updates.
I know that PR is an iterative (itherative??) calculation so more pages we have and more strong is the work to do. So maybe G need one month (or more time,2 or 3 months) to re-calculate PR??? If not, why this "time distance"?
And more, why are more and more often only PARTIAL updates (are updated only "virgin PR pages")? Its the first time we have these PARTIAL UPDATES. Partial updates dont make webmasters go crazy?
Even the link: results are iced by so looong time, maybe not to show this fact(?)
And again: supplementar results are saparated pages so the count is lighter?
And maybe also PHPBB ID pages and so on?
Ok ok are all only suppositions: i know. But who can explain me WHY of these things?
And another question: how mutch the Gtoolbar statistic data (with authorization) captured can (and if) influence SERP? Do you think that will be the next more democrathic PR (users decide and no more only webmasters)?
I make a supposition: PR is really calculated every 3 or 4 months and the serp dayly/weekly dance is due to Google Toolbar data.
You are right.. i have to phone to Fox Molder very soon.
Thank you for your patience and sorry again for my "maccheronic" english.
Bye guys!

rainborick
01-03-2007, 02:46 PM
I believe that the reason Google changed to using a separate, dedicated database for the Toolbar PageRank display (as well as for the link: operator) was for simple efficiency. They used to pull the PageRank and link: information from their live search databases, and as the Google Toolbar became more popular the queries being generated by the Toolbar was starting to become a burden on their primary systems. The other philosophical reasons like discouraging webmasters from obsessing over PageRank probably just made the decision to change things a bit easier.

superdan
01-11-2007, 07:54 PM
Do you see?
Also this time the last date of pages that has new pagerank assigned is almost half of november!! For new ones no PR! Isn't it strange??

JohnW
01-11-2007, 11:17 PM
Makes you wonder if they use 60 day old data for this, doesn't it?