SEM Salaries - What People Are Paying

[Joseph Morin]

Moderator Note: Split from SEM Hiring 101 (http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=8518)

ClickZ has some SEO/SEM salary information (http://www.clickz.com/experts/search/opt/article.php/3591061) in their SEO mailbag today. I think they are getting closer but I have still seen salaries quoted much higher than what is listed in the article.

[Lyndsay]

Wow... what an eye opener. Thank you for posting that article.

(salaries mentioned are in US dollars I assume?)

[Chris Boggs]

ClickZ has some SEO/SEM salary information (http://www.clickz.com/experts/search/opt/article.php/3591061) in their SEO mailbag today. I think they are getting closer but I have still seen salaries quoted much higher than what is listed in the article.

agreed. Thanks for the update. :)

[Sebastien Billard]

Well I wish there could be such salaries in France...

I am a SEO/SEM workin in a webagency, 5 years experience, writing articles, blogging, conferencing a little (like in the SES in Paris) and I make only 20.200 euros a year (24.300 USD) :rolleyes:

[Joseph Morin]

Wow... what an eye opener. Thank you for posting that article.

(salaries mentioned are in US dollars I assume?)

Yes US Dollars.

[Chris Boggs]

Well I wish there could be such salaries in France...

I am a SEO/SEM workin in a webagency, 5 years experience, writing articles, blogging, conferencing a little (like in the SES in Paris) and I make only 20.200 euros a year (24.300 USD) :rolleyes:

haha perhaps this is why your boss spends so much time in Nice and Monaco. :p

[Marek]

Well I wish there could be such salaries in France...

I am a SEO/SEM workin in a webagency, 5 years experience, writing articles, blogging, conferencing a little (like in the SES in Paris) and I make only 20.200 euros a year (24.300 USD) :rolleyes:

Sebastien, You are in Paris - that alone is worth a 100K per year!
Lucky....! :)

Salaries ... it also depends a lot, on a size of company you work for. I am a full timer on SEO/SEM for a big company (non-management, 3 years) and the salary is really good.

[seminhouse]

I'm in a greement with Joe, I've seen numbers higher than this at both ends of the spectrum. In particular, the starting point seems a bit low to me.

I'm a full-time, in-house SEO and we're doing salary research now. Based on what I found, if you're a large company (fortune 500 level) and want a somewhat experienced SEO, we're looking at a starting rate of about $90,000 (based on the midwest cost of living). From there it goes up. For a few years of experience and a bit of talent, you're at about $120,000+.

I was told by an industry A-lister that a well-known department store was looking to pay about $80,000 and the SEOs they called about the job laughed. Food for thought if you're after good talent.

I'm beginning to wonder if a lot of the inconsistency among in-house salaries is likely because most of us are home-grown. We came from diverse backgrounds and areas of the company. Typically if you stay within a company, you don't see a massive bump just because you get dropped into a newly created position. Most of the in-housers I speak to fell into the role from another, yet related, discipline.

[AussieWebmaster]

Yes US Dollars.

I thought it was in Euros... damn dollars that is not that good... :)

[AussieWebmaster]

I'm in a greement with Joe, I've seen numbers higher than this at both ends of the spectrum. In particular, the starting point seems a bit low to me.

I'm a full-time, in-house SEO and we're doing salary research now. Based on what I found, if you're a large company (fortune 500 level) and want a somewhat experienced SEO, we're looking at a starting rate of about $90,000 (based on the midwest cost of living). From there it goes up. For a few years of experience and a bit of talent, you're at about $120,000+.

I was told by an industry A-lister that a well-known department store was looking to pay about $80,000 and the SEOs they called about the job laughed. Food for thought if you're after good talent.

I'm beginning to wonder if a lot of the inconsistency among in-house salaries is likely because most of us are home-grown. We came from diverse backgrounds and areas of the company. Typically if you stay within a company, you don't see a massive bump just because you get dropped into a newly created position. Most of the in-housers I speak to fell into the role from another, yet related, discipline.

Amex was offering $95k base with bonuses up to 15% of salary and options.

[Marek]

Amex was offering $95k base with bonuses up to 15% of salary and options.

Where is the Amex job based?

[Nadir]

Well I wish there could be such salaries in France...

I am a SEO/SEM workin in a webagency, 5 years experience, writing articles, blogging, conferencing a little (like in the SES in Paris) and I make only 20.200 euros a year (24.300 USD) :rolleyes:

Hmmm, that's indeed not much... I'm from France and yes, salaries ain't the highest in the world, but with 5 years of experience, you should be making more! What do you do exactly? Do you provide SEO to your agency's clients or do you do SEO for your webagency's site? If you're willing to make money and to relocate, you can always try to work in the UK.

[AussieWebmaster]

Where is the Amex job based?

New York City

[Joseph Morin]

I personally know of 3 companies last year that were recruiting for the VP of Search level at $250K+ with the top one willing to go as high as $315K. All of these however were a mix of base comp plus bonus and/or performance based commissions.

Another thing I have seen is generous equity being thrown into the mix to sweeten the pot with options spread out over 3 - 4 years in an effort to actually keep the SEO/SEM with the company since a lot of companies experience high turnover with all of the poaching going on for very talented SEO's.

I mean it isnt hard to ascertain the talent level of the in-house SEO, just by looking at Hitwise, Comscore and Alexa improvements, keyword positioning, and pages indexed over time by the major engines. Once a very well optimized property has been identified, the recruiters and poachers start dialing for dollars.

Think about it, if a serious SEO/SEM strategist has been able to generate millions in profits for an enterprise level site, then what does it really cost a company serious about SEO to throw the person that got them there a few hundred thousand a year? Its found money anyway. Especially with the knowledge that a talented SEO/SEM could easily make that much on their own consulting or running their own sites?

[shor]

After reading this thread I initially was all :eek: Then I checked XE and became :o . After adjusting for exchange rate, the stated salary range converts accurately to Australian SEM, although it'd be interesting to see if the article was quoting strictly big city salaries or across the nation.

Alas, I don't think I've seen many VP-Search positions (or roles of that seniority) in Australia, so I can't comment on the upper echelon.

[incrediblehelp]

I feel these salaries are very dependant on the product or service your marketing for company in-house. If your working for a shopping search engine responsible for driving traffic from the SE to the website for 1000's of products, that would lead to millions in revenue, this salary tag will be drastically different than driving traffic to website that sells steaks and lobsters online.

Same thing goes when pricing job for a out-source quote.

[Sebastien Billard]

Sebastien, You are in Paris - that alone is worth a 100K per year!
Lucky....! :)

Salaries ... it also depends a lot, on a size of company you work for. I am a full timer on SEO/SEM for a big company (non-management, 3 years) and the salary is really good.

Well am not in Paris but in Lille, near belgium border. But I am sure many inhabitants of Paris would think living in California, Australia or London is worth 100K :)

Concerning the size of company what you say is true, I am in a little agency (7 people). Salaries would be perhaps higher as an independant or in a bigger company...

Hmmm, that's indeed not much... I'm from France and yes, salaries ain't the highest in the world, but with 5 years of experience, you should be making more! What do you do exactly? Do you provide SEO to your agency's clients or do you do SEO for your webagency's site? If you're willing to make money and to relocate, you can always try to work in the UK.

Well, we do SEO for some of our website creation clients, but also do SEO as an independant service. I do both, manage around 20 clients permanently, from little companies to big firms, manage some Adwords campaigns, follow the SE news, writes articles...

I don't think to leave France though, as I am attached to my country. I could perhaps work in Belgium as it is 20 min away :)

[aplusjimages]

Someone posted a blog that entry level is $30-40,000 year and that's about $10 an hour. That math is totally wrong. $10 an hour comes to about $22,000 a year. $30-$40,000 a year is about $13-$19 an hour. In North Florida entry level pay is in the low to mid $20's a year.

[sportsguy]

I believe the $10 an hour reference was that "someone was lloking to pay $10 an hour for SEM work, and that position also had t answer the phones" - at least, that's what i recall from reading the article... :)

Reagrdless of the money, etc., one key point I think is worth taking away is this:

Being a well trained, experienced, successful SEM is a valid career choice right now. And these skills will translate into a viable, continuing career in the future.

I tell folks all the time to start learning now - heck, I'll teach them 90% of what I know... ;)

[Joseph Morin]

I tell folks all the time to start learning now - heck, I'll teach them 90% of what I know... ;)

Hey Duane,

Thats actually funny but a great point, its long been understood that its that 10% that makes the difference between a good campaign and a great one.

People often ask me, "What happens when all of my competitors have SEO's in house - then what" and my reply is that it then becomes a chess match pitting one strategist against another and those that come out on top...are the ones worthy of those salaries at the top end of the pay scale.

:)

[AussieWebmaster]

Hey Duane,

Thats actually funny but a great point, its long been understood that its that 10% that makes the difference between a good campaign and a great one.

People often ask me, "What happens when all of my competitors have SEO's in house - then what" and my reply is that it then becomes a chess match pitting one strategist against another and those that come out on top...are the ones worthy of those salaries at the top end of the pay scale.

:)

I have to agree.... now next time you hear of a $250k job opening get in touch!

[Joseph Morin]

Your wish is my command. I just sent you one. Based in NYC too. ;)

[GuyFromChicago]

I'm a full-time, in-house SEO and we're doing salary research now. Based on what I found, if you're a large company (fortune 500 level) and want a somewhat experienced SEO, we're looking at a starting rate of about $90,000 (based on the midwest cost of living). From there it goes up. For a few years of experience and a bit of talent, you're at about $120,000+.


Based on what I've seen I'd say that's pretty accurate in the midwest.

[Chris Boggs]

Your wish is my command. I just sent you one. Based in NYC too. ;)
I'll take two, please. :p

[AussieWebmaster]

And when would you sleep?

[Carlos Chacón]

Moderator Note: Split from SEM Hiring 101 (http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=8518)

ClickZ has some SEO/SEM salary information (http://www.clickz.com/experts/search/opt/article.php/3591061) in their SEO mailbag today. I think they are getting closer but I have still seen salaries quoted much higher than what is listed in the article.

Thanks for the update...but what about NON US/Canada or UK SEO professionals?
How we can get paid based on those numbers?
It’s frustrating here how some clients argue about a 50$ USD monthly payment on a website’s maintenance.
:(

[AussieWebmaster]

Okay you are just being bartered with like most transactions in South America. Start higher and let them beat you down and they are happy.

[Sebastien Billard]

Some SEO geek should setup a website using the Google Map APIs and allowing SEOs to put their location and salaries :D It could be called "The SEO Argus"

[AussieWebmaster]

better done by area, salary and just job title and requirements..... don't want to tie to names and companies etc.

[PortofDreams]

Forwarded to boss....

[shimsand]

It'd be nice to see the difference for SEM's that work in an Agency vs. on the Client-side.

[AussieWebmaster]

The new AdWords subcontracting may impact salary prices... be interesting to see how much Google will pay.

[sportsguy]

I like the idea of the google map with areas/salaries/quals listed. :)

Glad to hear others know of the 90/10 rule when training others. ;) I firmly believe in teaching a man to fish, but he's got to show up and do some of the work, too...

[AussieWebmaster]

Got to love the industry....

[andrewgoodman]

I'm not sure I see entirely what is being gained by talking salaries up like this.

Check out Craigslist for entry-level marketing positions and you'll see plenty paying $25-30k.

Somewhere in the middle lies the reality.

As a business owner, too many heavy salaries will always drag you down. Yes, top people deserve to be well compensated of course, but if they were really that great why don't they start their own company.

As competent help becomes available out of college or from offshore, the hubris of very high salaries will become apparent here as it has in many other fields.

If you want huge pay - you should have to take on some risk... IMHO.

[trueMarketing]

I'm not sure I see entirely what is being gained by talking salaries up like this.

As a business owner, too many heavy salaries will always drag you down. Yes, top people deserve to be well compensated of course, but if they were really that great why don't they start their own company.

As competent help becomes available out of college or from offshore, the hubris of very high salaries will become apparent here as it has in many other fields.

If you want huge pay - you should have to take on some risk... IMHO.


Hi there,
I started an SEO company about 5 years ago. I do agree with part of your statement that if somebody is really that good, then they should become self-employed or start their own company. I mean, I did for that very reason.

The point though is, even though my personal net salary last year was well over $375k, I miss working around others in the same industry. Yes, I have a close circle of other very smart SEO people, but now I'm sort of "stuck" in my business and web properties b/c no one can afford me.

I'm sure others are in the same boat, but I really can't justify working for some other company for $70-100k per year since I now know of my true SEM "worth."

One thing I didn't really hear mentioned in the SEM salary article or other articles is that marketing, SEO, or SEM positions should also always employ an incentive based salary structure.

I received this from a previous employer (an online pharmacy fulfillment company). Since I made them well over $3 mil in one year and exceeded goals, etc., I got incentivized based on my performance, sales, conversions, and so on.

People posting job salaries concerning marketing-type positions like SEO, SEM hardly ever mention incentive-based but rather stick to flat pay structures, even though it is perhaps the best matching job type to be incentivized on.

Honestly, I would like to work with a dynamic start-up or even established company as an SEM Director or something if they provided a great service/product(s), but since SEM jobs are still treated as such a new job niche, fairness in salary and worth just aren't there as of now.

So, anyone reading this wanting to hire someone like myself should not expect to pay $200k + for my salary, but I DO think they should expect an incentivized pay scale since my job (as well as other jobs like sales, business development, etc) impacts bottom line dollars and can completely be measured and tracked.

So, anyone looking to hire? I'm located in NC :D

[ChadLedford]

Thank you for this post. I am going to be graduating from college in May and I will be going into SEO and SEM so this post gave me an idea of what to expect.

NC!

[trueMarketing]

Thank you for this post. I am going to be graduating from college in May and I will be going into SEO and SEM so this post gave me an idea of what to expect.

NC!

Where are you graduating from exactly?

[Chris Boggs]

my guess would be UNC (from the "NC!" at the end)...tough loss today...

[ChadLedford]

It was a very tough loss today, considering I had UNC going to the finals in my bracket :cool:

I will be graduating from Appalachian State University with a BS in Business Management, can't wait.

[trueMarketing]

Cool, if you decided to move to Raleigh after you graduate, give me a shout. My company is SEOposition (or SEOposition.com).

I've never really marketed our actual company site since most of the web sites I deal with are my own (so I've never really needed clients). I'd be interested in collaborating or talking to others wanting to work in the same industry or hire a few people to help manage things.

I get quite a few client leads and have been passing them off to another SEO company over the past few years. I'd like to rework that scenario a bit though and bring a few in-house with the right SEM people managing the accounts.

Some of the clients turned out to be big ones - $50k or more per year accounts.

Logically, I'd like to have a few SEM's in-house and let them reap the rewards and get incentivized on the clients they close/manage.

An approx. salary range for this type of position (since I don't want to get too off topic from this thread) would be $70-90k per year.

[sportsguy]

True - does this mean you incentivise yourself on the performance of your own SEO work on your own sites? ;)

Everyone is starting their own SEO company these days. :)

I personally think flat-rate pay is realistic. Don't get me wrong, my bi-annual bonus is tied to performance, but not necessarily results. That is to say, if the results are positive, so much the better. if they are less-so, we look at all the reasons why this may be. Because SEO (or there results thereof) impact so many other areas of a company, it's unfair to say revenues were down (or not where we'd hoped), so Duane doesn't get his full bonus - even though he worked his behind off getting us better positioned for future rankings, etc.

Now, if you're talking PPC, I can see the more direct relationship - I manage the camapign, sales go up, I get a taste - fair enough. Same deal if we spend money and it tanks - I get a taste of nada.

The bottom line is this - you are paying the flat rate for my knowledge and experience. If I'm willing to take a flat rate pay-structure (plus perks, plus benefits, etc.), as a company, I'd be shocked if you DIDN'T want the larger slice for yourself. Money can motivate, but to many SEO/SEM folks, who are, by nature, somewhat geeky, money may no tbe the only motivator.

...and, if I move to NC, can you get me a green card? ;)

[trueMarketing]

True - does this mean you incentivise yourself on the performance of your own SEO work on your own sites? ;)

To be honest, I took the incentivized scenario from another job position where my base salary was tied into a nice competitive incentive program as well. But, yes, to an extent, I pay myself more now when things go as planned and revenue is much higher. If things don't go as planned, I pay myself less, so it goes both ways...


I personally think flat-rate pay is realistic. Don't get me wrong, my bi-annual bonus is tied to performance, but not necessarily results. That is to say, if the results are positive, so much the better. if they are less-so, we look at all the reasons why this may be. Because SEO (or there results thereof) impact so many other areas of a company, it's unfair to say revenues were down (or not where we'd hoped), so Duane doesn't get his full bonus - even though he worked his behind off getting us better positioned for future rankings, etc.

In my experience you can easily track SEO versus direct marketing versus PPC versus, etc. They all are not related to each other and can be measured from using baseline reports and a good stats program to track increases from newly indexed pages, new added content, and so on.

But, to your comment above, I think that if those measurable baselines are dropping or have dropped, then no, a bonus should not be given/earned. Yes, market trends, product demand, and even down to the web site(s) look and feel, design, and/or pricing for servies and products are all components that can make measuring SEO effectiveness hard. But this, in my opinion, is where any good SEO will stand out to prevent slacking sales as I truly feel that an SEO or SEM person's job should involve design, look and feel of site to increase conversion, etc.


The bottom line is this - you are paying the flat rate for my knowledge and experience. If I'm willing to take a flat rate pay-structure (plus perks, plus benefits, etc.), as a company, I'd be shocked if you DIDN'T want the larger slice for yourself. Money can motivate, but to many SEO/SEM folks, who are, by nature, somewhat geeky, money may no tbe the only motivator.

You're right, paying for knowledge is everything. Yes, people can learn as they go, but nothing provides the know-how and keen sense of what to do and when in the SEO industry like a seasoned SEM person who's worked on many web properties and a person who has learned from mistakes. My life is embedded in SEM - it's who I am and all I've done for 7 years now. So, I will not sell that knowledge short to work for another company without adequate compensations. But, I do think that if I'm a good enough marketer to say to the employer,

"Ok, if you really want sales, then how much are you really willing to pay me for those sales (in percentages or dollars) on top of a base salary?"

then, it shows a sense of me putting my mouth where their money is. But, you're right though that certain people (like myself) are a little geeky and not so prone to just up and leave something good, like their current projects if those projects are doing well enough to support them.


...and, if I move to NC, can you get me a green card? ;)

Hmm, I don't have much experince in the green card area. Where are you located now?

[sportsguy]

But this, in my opinion, is where any good SEO will stand out to prevent slacking sales as I truly feel that an SEO or SEM person's job should involve design, look and feel of site to increase conversion, etc.

Exactly my current dilemma - though our company values SEO and knows it's a long-term investment (heck, we've already been online a decade, what's another 6 months?), we have Product Managers who actually manage the properties we operate. I work with them, but in the end, it's their property, and many things I'd recommend get the heave in favor of "look & feel" or because "the users might not get it" (while there is some truth to that last point, let's be real - short of drastic changes, the users will generally adapt to small things - and, more to the point, they could probably not give a crusty crab whether the site uses javascript for navigation or not.

Hmm, I don't have much experince in the green card area. Where are you located now?

LOL - I'm in Eastern Canada. Should you ever find yourself venturing this way, let me know and I'll take you out for a drink. This was asked in jest, to be sure. When I worked for the casinos that Caesars owned here years ago, a friend took a job in Lake Tahoe with them - it was a hassle for them to get a work permit for her, as they had to prove the local market couldn't supply her talents/skills. Her husband was left twisting, as he in no way qualified for any kind of work permits. Plus, he was a carpenter - methinks there were already carpenters in Tahoe...

[vayapues]

I am working both a day job, as well as SEO for my own network of children's websites. From the day job I pull around 100 K USD after bonuses. And a very generous amount of stock.

Duties include

PHP Programing
Databasing
Flash
Graphic Design
Traditional Marketing


I have worked for this company for 1.5 years. I used to run my own SEO company but got very tired of the long hours. The company I work for now is one of my former clients.

From the kids sites I also pull around 100 K. These are my sites top to bottom. I do everything from programming games, to writing informational articles and news stories.

Located in the Mid-West.

[trueMarketing]

Hello Vayapues,
Sounds like you and I are doing almost the same thing, except I'm only thinking of getting a day job as of now.

I felt like your post could've easily been mine for the most part though.

My total network of sites and partnership (50/50 LLC) sites are at around a dozen, with others on the backburner until I can clone myself to handle more work... ;)

The difference between you and I is that you know and use PHP Programing and Data base programming, so your skillset and 'market value' to a company looking for a well versed SEM person would obvoiusly be greater than mine. You can work with and manage more effectively the processes between SEO/SEM and databases or code.

One thing that I'm jealous about with you is that you get stock options and a nice health insurance plan. Unfortunately, my health insurance is, err... over $700 a month now for two adults and a two year old.

It's people like you that have been mentioned several times, not just in this forum, that are hard to come by. And, even if you do, the SEM person knows he or she could continue doing well enough on their own.

I wonder how you do it. For example:

How do you work from 9-5 and then have time for other marketing and site development? Would you rather be programming or handling the marketing, or everything? Does your 9-5 company know that you have sites on your own and do they care?

I only really want the marketing since I feel I'm most effective and energetic there. The Php and DB stuff hacks away at my time so much now because I've never had any former training.

If you ever want to talk or discuss working together in some way, please let me know. I'm trying to "run a tighter ship," so to speak with my sites and would like to move more back into a 3/4 to full time marketing role.

Perhaps we can trade some work or partner on a site. All of my partnerships are set up as a pay by performance scenario, not salary. So, essentially I don't make money unless I bring in sales. Or I receive an affiliate-type payout for what I bring in, etc.

Thanks
Brian

[AussieWebmaster]

To pull off the fulltime and part time gigs you need discipline. Every day you need to spend the 3-4 hours after work to keep things on track.

[vayapues]

How do you work from 9-5 and then have time for other marketing and site development? Would you rather be programming or handling the marketing, or everything? Does your 9-5 company know that you have sites on your own and do they care?

I actually work from 3:30 am - 11:30 am. Not by assignment, but because that is when my brain works at its best. My company thinks I am a bit nuts as far as that goes. I than take a nice long lunch, and maybe a 20 minute nap. I than usually spend from 1:00 pm - about 9:00 pm working on my own stuff.

Aussie is right, it would take discipline, if it were not for the fact that I am addicted to it. Literally, I am addicted to it. I love programming, it is fun. Making games, and apps is a blast. It is like giving life to a child. I enjoy writing articles (content), and learning about the topics I am researching.

I started with an astronomy website, because I am an astronomy buff, and have gone from there. My first profession was as an elementary teacher, so naturally that led me to build children's websites.

If I didn't like it, I couldn't do it, but fact is, I couldn't stop if I wanted to. Sadly, I mean that literally. Not that I want to stop.

To answer your other question, yes, my employer knows about my personal sites. It is part of how I sold myself to them. If I can get my sites to the top, I should be able to get their sites to the top. Also, the fact that I have several sites with a PR of 7 gives me a lot of voting power. I should say gave me a lot of voting power, as the algos are clearly not as favorable to that anymore. But like I say, it is how I sold myself to them. In fact, I host the company sites on my personal colo server.

I would be happy to partner on projects if the timing were right, but as you can see from my schedule, I don't really have a lot of spare time. I have several new kids websites I am working on, two launching in May, and three others I want to have before next years school year starts. After that, I have at least 15 other kids domains registered that I need to build games, apps, and write content for.

[fspezia]

Some SEO geek should setup a website using the Google Map APIs and allowing SEOs to put their location and salaries :D It could be called "The SEO Argus"

I was looking for a good Google Maps API mashup project. This sounded good so I have started on it. If you are in the US, please fill out the salary survey at:

http://salarymap.com/index.cfm

This is in beta form at the moment so your data will help in development. Please PM with feedback.

I will follow up with Canadian, UK, Australian, European, Indian, and whatever else I can find geocode look up services for.

Thanks.

[vayapues]

I tried, but I get the following error
The element at position 2 of dimension 1, of array variable "RETURNARRAY," cannot be found.


Please try the following:
Enable Robust Exception Information to provide greater detail about the source of errors. In the Administrator, click Debugging & Logging > Debugging Settings, and select the Robust Exception Information option.
Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct syntax.
Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.


Browser Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)
Remote Address 64.122.18.201
Referrer http://salarymap.com/salarysubmit.cfm
Date/Time 27-Mar-06 10:33 AM

[fspezia]

Try adjusting the address format or try another address. That response indicates that the geocode service did not find the address you input.

I think the street and postal code are most important. But try it a couple of times please and I will work on some error handling code. Thanks.

[vayapues]

No luck. I tried a variety of addresses. If anyone gets it to work, post an example address. I am happy to participate.

[fspezia]

I tried a variety of addresses with and without comma separation and they worked for me. Please pass address information to me via PM and I'll see what I can do. Please include browser and OS info too. I am glad to catch this kind of error before launching.

I tried this one with success:
186 spezia oxford mi

It should work with all US addresses.

[Marek]

I tried a variety of addresses with and without comma separation and they worked for me. (...) It should work with all US addresses.

I received 500 server error when posting a valid US address.

[caugas]

I was looking for a good Google Maps API mashup project. This sounded good so I have started on it. If you are in the US, please fill out the salary survey at:

http://salarymap.com/index.cfm

This is in beta form at the moment so your data will help in development. Please PM with feedback.

I will follow up with Canadian, UK, Australian, European, Indian, and whatever else I can find geocode look up services for.

Thanks.

This is going to be great! Good work!

[makapangyarihan]

I have a little over 6 years of experience in doing practically all facets of Search Engine Marketing from Web design, SEO, copywriting, link popularity, affiliate program and PPC campaign management to conversion analysis and Web analytics. I earn only about USD $1,000/month. :(

I'm so thankful for broadband becoming available that I can now take on offshore projects that I could not dare take years ago simply because it would be impossible to work offsite with a dialup connection. :)

[AussieWebmaster]

I have a little over 6 years of experience in doing practically all facets of Search Engine Marketing from Web design, SEO, copywriting, link popularity, affiliate program and PPC campaign management to conversion analysis and Web analytics. I earn only about USD $1,000/month. :(

I'm so thankful for broadband becoming available that I can now take on offshore projects that I could not dare take years ago simply because it would be impossible to work offsite with a dialup connection. :)

Wow and you can obviously support yourself on $1,000 a month.... maybe I retire to the Phillipines.... not far from home and cheap.... can live off US social security and Australian pension!!!

But in the meantime you may want to look at www.getafreelancer.com could be right up your alley.

[makapangyarihan]

Wow and you can obviously support yourself on $1,000 a month.... maybe I retire to the Phillipines.... not far from home and cheap.... can live off US social security and Australian pension!!!

But in the meantime you may want to look at www.getafreelancer.com could be right up your alley.


The Philippines is actually a haven for plenty of expats and retirees. :) The culture here is very western, almost everybody speaks english and the currency exchange rate is about 52 Pesos = 1 US Dollar. Ha ha ha ha ha.

$1,000/month is of course well above the minimum wage. I can command such a high salary (by local standards) because literally, I am the most experienced SEM person here. If you make about $5,000/month, you'd be living like royalty here. :D Maybe I should market the Philippines as THE retirement destination for SEM professionals? Hmmm... not a bad idea. :rolleyes:

That's also one of the reasons why more and more American and Australian companies are setting up operations here. Good talent, cheaper salaries, very little communication barriers and nice place to stay for long periods of time. Hmmm... come to think of it, if there's anybody here who is interested in setting up an SEM shop here, I can probably be of help in putting together and managing a highly qualified SEM team. :cool:

[ewc21]

Always nice to hear that about the Philippines. :)