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mdsouza
02-27-2006, 12:33 AM
I will try to explain this mess.
1. Main site - domainname.com - 3-4 yrs old
2. Site 2 domain name same as main except .co.uk transfered to host then re-directed to site #3 from the cpanel. - same age
3. Site 3 offers products but download only. Site 3 links to Main site for those needing disk shipments. - 6 months old

History
Site 1 was doing well on both google.com and google.co.uk, domain was forwarded about 2-3 months back. Just after site 3 when live.

Problem:
When searching google .com all pages appear for site 1, ranking is #6 for main keyphrase. When searching on google.co.uk site is nowhere to be found nada - yes I have searched using site: Now here is the other kicker when searching g.co.uk for site 2 several pages are in the index with description snippets from site 3 (supplemental - but I can deal with that) when you click on the listing to forwards to site 3. However site 3 does not appear using the site command - not in the index.

Our immediate problem is all this has effected site 1. which was stable in google.co.uk this is a uk owned business and really needs the UK index.

All suggestion for remedy would greatly be appreciated. The site owner has dis-engaged the forwarding as of today and I am planning on removing the links on site 3 that point to site1.

I have never had a site fall out of the index before and need guidance on the steps that need to be taken. Do I contact google and ask if the site is being penalized or banned? And if so will they tell me why? or should I just remove the links on site 3 and ask for re-inclusion.

As far as I know there is nothing else going on here other than the forwarding and linking.

I need to add that there are a handful of backlinks showing in google.co.uk for site 1.

Wail
02-27-2006, 11:49 AM
Use the 'info:' command to see whether your sites really are gone. Google for [info:www.example.com].

If you're a .com and not hosted in the UK (or Google doesn't think you're hosted in the UK) then it's quite likely that you'll not appear in .co.uk.

If your .co.uk is being pagejacked by the redirects to site three (is that a .com) then the Google may just be using .com (3) for you instead of .co.uk (2). If this is the case then when you do info:www.site2.co.uk you may see Google returning information about www.site3.com.

Is there a duplicate content issue to?

mdsouza
02-27-2006, 12:25 PM
According to google.co.uk webmaster info
your site's top-level domain does not need to match the country domain for which you would like it to return

info: shows the home page
Show Google's cache of www.site.com - feb 16,2006
Find web pages that are similar to www.site.com - 0
Find web pages that link to www.site.com - a handful
Find web pages from the site www.site.com - 0
Find web pages that contain the term "www.site.com" - 148

I look into the duplicate content I know the home page and the information pages are unique content, but the product pages are the same since the 2 sites offer the same products but in different format. Site owner is going to love hearing he must change the product descriptions on the download site all 10,000. ;)