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teacake23
09-15-2005, 01:53 PM
I have registered two new URL's for a website I have in the pipeline, but it is still under development at the moment.
However, to help minimise the impact of the sandbox, should I get a holding page and a few supporting pages uploaded ASAP, which I can then add to when the main site is ready?
Or does it not matter - when I upload the new webpages in the future will they still get affected by the sandbox?
I.E. If I manage to get out of the sandbox by building good IBLs and having a bit of history with the holding/few supporting pages will any new pages uploaded later be exempt? :confused:

Alternatively, I am in a position where I could potentially upload a few hudred pages utilising some data from a similar website (although I would ensure each page has enough unique content so its not classed as duplicate content), these few hundred pages could then gain the required history and shake-off the time delay. When the final website design is then complete I could update submitted webpages accordingly.

Your thoughts/comments as to which method would be best to follow would be much appreciated!

intensity
09-28-2005, 11:11 AM
The Sandbox filter affects the IBL's weight value contribution to newly established domains.

unrelated
09-28-2005, 11:45 AM
I am not sure it's a sure-fire scheme either way. But I would suggest method one - put up a few relevant pages as close to the final content as possible. Get some links, get it indexed, let it sit and build it out slowly. That's not guarenteed by any means - it's safe to assume that Google has predicted/addressed this response to the delay and some "evidence" to suggest the massive changes that this approach inevitably creates (sudden addition of new and different content to a relatively new and static site) introduces a whole new review/flag. Basically G likes the sandox; they're pleased with its effects. So I think it's safe to bet that they are also cognizant of the false-aging schemes to beat it. No reason not to do it though - it's not like they can ingore you even more.

maxd
09-28-2005, 01:46 PM
A friend has built a tool that looks at the first 30 serps, grabs the whois info, looks at all the domains register date to see if there is a site there that was registered in the last 6 months. If we find one then we will analyse the links. We did a test run yesterday and out of many commercial searches there was no domain that was registered later than 2004. I think there is little you can do. The only sites that I saw come out relatively quickly was something like Threadwatch.org which gained a shed load of links quickly and from many old authority domains. IMO that is the only way to go.

Would be interesting to see what Matt cutts's blog does too. 2 months old and I have no problem finding it on G ( I guess he could always press the desandbox button) and it has 9600 backlinks on yahoo.

So in conclusion if you are going to get a load of backlinks quickly + avoid the sandbox you need to get links from all the right places.

unrelated
09-28-2005, 01:54 PM
Funny you should mention that kind of tool. I was actually just thinking about modifying some stuff to do just that - looks like you beat me to it. I'd love to have a look at it if it's something you are interested in sharing. Though you might not be I would guess. Feel free to PM me if you/they are OK with it.