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Carlos Chacón
05-14-2005, 02:16 PM
It seems like Yahoo loves every single BLOG…
The problem is that some of those BLOG are just used as SPAM (No good content site)
Why? Is Slurp too young? No filter around?
:mad:

Marcia
05-14-2005, 07:03 PM
The problem is that some of those BLOG are just used as SPAM (No good content site)I've seen some, and they appear to be done by seasoned pros who've figured out how to manipulate the TF/IDF. Some are even doorway type gibberish, though not all last for too long.

Why? Is Slurp too young? No filter around?Programs can't have the same kind of analytic ability as the human eye does, so automated filtering has limitations. A big part of recognizing what's spam is subjective judgment - which takes seeing, thinking and evaluating.

That's why the current generation of search has been centered more around link analysis than on-page factors; it's harder to figure out a formula for, unless it's just straight PR or link-pop count.

seobook
05-15-2005, 01:08 PM
its also easy to quickly spam Yahoo! Search by subscribing to a spam blog in My Yahoo!. there are even easily accessible software programs out there for making automated blog spam posts

Marcia
05-15-2005, 11:01 PM
Search by subscribing to a spam blog in My Yahoo!. there are even easily accessible software programs out there for making automated blog spam postsIs that an objective observation stating that it's being done, or are you suggesting that people get software and spam blogs?

seobook
05-15-2005, 11:08 PM
Is that an objective observation stating that it's being done, or are you suggesting that people get software and spam blogs?
I created a blog and intentionally did not built ANY linkage data at all, subscribed to it via My Yahoo, and found the site quickly listed in the regular search results.

if your market is not that competitive and you use the right page title it is free ranking candy.

I have also seen various programs such as (memory might be broke here) blog power and blogging equalizer that try to automate some portion of the effort needed to actually make legitimate posts.

dannysullivan
05-16-2005, 06:27 AM
I created a blog and intentionally did not built ANY linkage data at all, subscribed to it via My Yahoo, and found the site quickly listed in the regular search results.
Which is I think the main takeaway for many site owners. Yahoo itself has long encouraged that people subscribe to their own feeds using My Yahoo, because that's one of the fastest ways now to get the new index into the index.

Separately from this, you've got programs that will "ping" various blog update services as a means to try and get legit pages in more quickly or to just get a flood of spam pages in.

rustybrick
05-16-2005, 08:25 AM
Many corporate sites have "news", "press releases", and other types of RSS friendly content. I am a huge fan of building an RSS feed to help Yahoo! syndication.

Marcia
05-16-2005, 11:58 AM
It doesn't even take submitting. I installed WordPress in a subdirectory of a site of mine through Fantastico just to let a friend see what it's like, since she was thinking of switching to it from MT. She did a "testing" post or two that morning - that was it. Just a little test, and the test directory is still getting fetched by Slurp constantly.

Another instance - I installed Drupal (also through Fantastico) and did a couple of "testing, testing" posts on an EMPTY new domain to see if I wanted to use it. I then uninstalled it because of the session IDs. Again - Slurp is still coming after those non-existent pages with the SessionIds daily.

These were both last summer - and of course neither test was submitted anyplace. Both still getting visited by Slurp daily.

This is two separate issues. How Yahoo deals with spam in the index is a different issue altogether.

I found a total spam blog last week, obviously to generate anchor text for a network of spammy sites, ranking for a desirable search term - at #10. Complete gibberish, autogenerated with keywords mixed in. It was GONE the next day, when I went looking for it again.

Whether Yahoo picks these things up and de-indexes them automatically or intervene manually I've got no idea, but knowing a bit about Inktomi's history it isn't a good idea at all to get caught and flagged by them.

Yep, Yahoo loves blogs and even picks up on spam blogs or test blogs. Yahoo also crawls aggressively and picks up and indexes new pages on regular, legitimate sites right away - and they can rank right away, too. What it amounts to is that they're keeping the index fresh and up to date, which is a good thing.

The spam issue is a different matter from how they crawl.

seobook
05-16-2005, 03:48 PM
The spam issue is a different matter from how they crawl.
to some extent yes, but if they are willing to rank stuff without any linkage data at all then that will be heavily exploited by some. hence search spam.

Carlos Chacón
05-18-2005, 01:20 PM
Yep, Yahoo loves blogs and even picks up on spam blogs or test blogs. Yahoo also crawls aggressively and picks up and indexes new pages on regular, legitimate sites right away - and they can rank right away, too. What it amounts to is that they're keeping the index fresh and up to date, which is a good thing.

The spam issue is a different matter from how they crawl.

All I know is that the SEO practitioner should help the search engines by making the sites more relevant and making relevant information clear and easy to access, and not by using spam techniques to artificially inflate the perceived relevancy of inferior sites.

I am not a Spammer, but Yahoo looks like the best search engine to do SPAM….
:(

dyn4mik3
05-18-2005, 02:02 PM
Danny touched on this a little bit.

The reason why new blogs are getting index/crawled by engines so fast is due to the automatic ping feature most blog software uses. The moment you post anything, the blog software pings around 10 sites (if its wordpress) and these sites list your article or blog.

As for ranking new blogs over new sites - its all due to the optimization and the content. Yahoo does not distinguish a blog from a website. They are the same thing.