dannysullivan
07-07-2004, 10:34 AM
RustyBrick blogged (http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/000628.html) about a good WebmasterWorld.com thread (http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/24710.htm) on how if you search for Overture at Google, the Overture US official site doesn't come up first.
That raises some interesting issues, but what really caught my eye was the fact that the top site, goto.com, leads to the Ask Jeeves-owned My Way portal!
For those who don't remember, GoTo was the name (and GoTo.com the address) of today's Overture. The company changed (http://searchenginewatch.com/sereport/article.php/2164231) its name in October 2001. But despite the name change, the goto.com address still worked to take people to Overture.
I was amazed to find Overture no longer owns it. There are plenty of links still pointing at the site -- Yahoo reports (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.goto.com&ei=UTF-8&fr=sfp&n=20&fl=0&x=wrt) nearly 300,000 of them. That GoTo address was very well seeded across the web.
Yellow pages directory service Go2 (http://www.go2online.com) appears (http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/results.jhtml;jsessionid=XICZRSL4V5VLACWLEALSFEY?w hoistoken=6&_requestid=125493) to have gained the name on January 13 of this year, according to whois records.
For the time being, Go2 seems happy to point that traffic over at My Way, which Ask bought (http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3337511) earlier this year. Getting that traffic from GoTo links may be one reason why I've noticed a rise in My Way-related traffic.
By the way, Google doesn't list the Overture US site first, but the Overture Germany site does show up fourth as a link-only URL. Overture blocks all spiders from accessing its site via its robots.txt file -- but the fact that Overture.de shows up shows that Google can still list sites just based off of link data.
Blocking Google is odd -- if Overture didn't do this, they'd almost certainly be first for their own name and not need to have what appears to be Performics placing ads on their behalf promoting "Overture: Official Site - $50 off Overture Search Advertising Reach 80% of U.S. Internet Users!"
Despite the block on spidering, Overture does rank tops at Yahoo for overture (http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=sfp&p=overture) -- which owns the service. It's a paid inclusion URL that's listed, then interestingly, the next four links also leading to Overture show signs of being hardcode to that query (see the SEW members version (http://searchenginewatch.com/_subscribers/articles/article.php/3369631) of this article (http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3369651) for more about apparent hardcoding at Yahoo).
I've got some emails out to see if I can find more about when the domain change happened and why. Will update, if I hear more.
That raises some interesting issues, but what really caught my eye was the fact that the top site, goto.com, leads to the Ask Jeeves-owned My Way portal!
For those who don't remember, GoTo was the name (and GoTo.com the address) of today's Overture. The company changed (http://searchenginewatch.com/sereport/article.php/2164231) its name in October 2001. But despite the name change, the goto.com address still worked to take people to Overture.
I was amazed to find Overture no longer owns it. There are plenty of links still pointing at the site -- Yahoo reports (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.goto.com&ei=UTF-8&fr=sfp&n=20&fl=0&x=wrt) nearly 300,000 of them. That GoTo address was very well seeded across the web.
Yellow pages directory service Go2 (http://www.go2online.com) appears (http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/results.jhtml;jsessionid=XICZRSL4V5VLACWLEALSFEY?w hoistoken=6&_requestid=125493) to have gained the name on January 13 of this year, according to whois records.
For the time being, Go2 seems happy to point that traffic over at My Way, which Ask bought (http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3337511) earlier this year. Getting that traffic from GoTo links may be one reason why I've noticed a rise in My Way-related traffic.
By the way, Google doesn't list the Overture US site first, but the Overture Germany site does show up fourth as a link-only URL. Overture blocks all spiders from accessing its site via its robots.txt file -- but the fact that Overture.de shows up shows that Google can still list sites just based off of link data.
Blocking Google is odd -- if Overture didn't do this, they'd almost certainly be first for their own name and not need to have what appears to be Performics placing ads on their behalf promoting "Overture: Official Site - $50 off Overture Search Advertising Reach 80% of U.S. Internet Users!"
Despite the block on spidering, Overture does rank tops at Yahoo for overture (http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=sfp&p=overture) -- which owns the service. It's a paid inclusion URL that's listed, then interestingly, the next four links also leading to Overture show signs of being hardcode to that query (see the SEW members version (http://searchenginewatch.com/_subscribers/articles/article.php/3369631) of this article (http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3369651) for more about apparent hardcoding at Yahoo).
I've got some emails out to see if I can find more about when the domain change happened and why. Will update, if I hear more.