View Full Version : Need help with a website and yahoo index.
jameshawks
03-22-2005, 04:01 PM
Several months back my website www.autocreditfinders.com was dropped from the Yahoo Index. We have looked over the guidelines and can't find anything wrong. We are have been rejected by sitematch and they won't tell us why. All they say is that it did not pass quality review and they don't know why. We are still in the Yahoo directory but are being blacklisted in the index and sitematch. If anybody has any insight or suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.
Grumpus
03-22-2005, 04:31 PM
When I copy a sentence from your homepage and put it in quotes and pop it into Google, I get a bunch of strange, spammy looking sites that quote a snippet from your page and link to you - what are those sites? How did you get those links? Are you going to regret getting those links?
G.
jameshawks
03-22-2005, 04:43 PM
We have never paid for a single link to our website. I did some searches myself and found that many of the listings are google results that are showing snippets of my website.
Grumpus
03-22-2005, 05:21 PM
Okay. You made me do it, huh? :)
Do you want the answer, or do you want one that'll make you happy? It's hard to tell because you've lied to me.
Many of those pages I asked about are registered to the same company that your autocreditfinders site is registered under. When visiting that page, I find out that you, yourself, are the COO of the umbrella company.
Basically, Sitematch rejected you because your company has a bunch of web sites out there designed simply to generate link-pop for a handful of smaller sites like the one you are asking about. Because Sitematch actually pays someone to research these things, they probably discovered a lot more than I did in my 5 minute investigation of it.
So, while the reviewer was at it, he also flipped a switch that that site (and probably the others he came up with) is involved in link spamming.
Do yourself a favor and don't apply for an Adwords account until after you've cleaned up those link farm sites.
Sorry to be so blunt here, but I tried to give you an out by letting you explain to me what those sites were. And, if you truly aren't aware of their existence, then you definitely need help Chiefing your Operations - someone at Customer Funding has been very bad.
G.
jameshawks
03-22-2005, 05:45 PM
We don't own a link-farm and only operate a few websites. I never lied and don't like the implication. I am just trying to understand why my site has been dropped from Yahoo. If you are seeing a large amount of links from websites that we own send me a link of your search because I don't see it. The only websites that we run are as follows:
www.autocreditfinders.com
www.carloansnow.com
www.badcreditautoloans.com
www.customerfunding.com
www.lowestcarquote.com
www.autoreficenter.com
There might be a few old websites that we do not promote anymore but that is it. So if you call that a link-farm then we definitely have differing opinions. Any other links are sites that are linking to my site on their own accord. If you still think I am lying pick up phone and talk to me in person. My number is on the website you found. My ultimate goal is to get my website back into the Yahoo index.
Grumpus
03-22-2005, 06:32 PM
My mistake, there. Those domains you listed are the ones I came up with, and they got on the wrong list - that's what I get for trying to do things quickly...
There is a problem with those though. I'll touch on that before I get into the link farm problem.
The domains above should have been on my "Template Site" list. Basically, all of those look like they are template sites built for some affiliate program or whatnot. They don't really have much meat and the meat that they do have is virtually a duplicate (with a different layout) of each of the other sites. So, for that, alone, it probably didn't qualify for sitematch.
Then, you get into the sitemaps of these sites and there are "<State> Auto Loans" links to pages that are word-for-word identical except for the name of the state. That'll get you whacked by the SE's, too, from time to time.
Now, onto the link farm problem...
There appears to be roughly three or four people who are doing all of this linking. I didn't look too deeply into these because I started getting stuff from your company up and it all started to bleed together on me.
Basically, these three or four people (obviously in the same field and generating these pages to improve their own link-pop) are spamming. Because of the templated nature of your sites, all of your sites are clustering up on these pages and it ends up looking with a cursory glance that it's you guys doing the spamming. My further looking now proved that it's probably not the case (and, again, I apologize for jumping to the conclusion).
The fact is, though, that combined with your template site issues and all the duplicate content pages that the guy at Sitematch saw all these link farm pages with all your sites coming up on them and assumed the same thing I did.
Not sure how to fix it. If it were me, I'd start by building the end-all-be-all Car Loans information site and ditching the little template jobbers. Nowadays, those sites are really only helping you to compete with yourself when it comes to SEO anyway.
Having one site would also fix the link farm problem because it wouldn't have all your sites clustered in there with these guy's own spam.
One last time - please accept my apology for jumping the gun. It does in fact look bad with a simple cursory inspection of your question, though. It takes a bit deeper looking to realize the mistake that I made.
G.