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stacywms
07-02-2004, 12:18 PM
Everyone,

I have a client who was using Flash detection at www.domain.com, so that the home page was hosted at www.domain.com/awful/long/horrible/url.html. Of course, I told them they need to move their home page to www.domain.com. Without consulting me, they used Browserhawk software, so now when I visit, their home page is at www.domain.com/index.asp?bhcp=1.

When I complained and started digging into what they had done, I found that Browserhawk does browser sniffing and serves up www.domain.com to the search engines instead (with the same content as I would see, just a shorter URL). This sure looks like cloaking to me, which I avoid like the plague.

Anyone have any experience with Browserhawk or any thoughts on this?

Thanks,
Stacy Williams
Prominent Placement, Inc.

Mikkel deMib Svendsen
07-05-2004, 04:19 PM
Browserhawk is not cloaking software but a server component used to detect browsers and browser versions to serve adjusted versions of your code to different browser versions. Below you'll find a link that explain a bit more about what it does:

http://www.15seconds.com/component/pg000307.htm

Sounds like cloaking? Well, thats the problem about such techniques - the same technique can be used for several things. However, Browserhawk is, I must say, not a very good solution if you really do want to cloaking. Professional cloakers usually use a combination of (at least) spidering agent names and IPs. Browserhawk only look at agent names and only detect browsers - not spiders.

Off course, this can be used to serve up one page to all normal browsers (based on Browsehawks detection of known browsers and versions) but it's just not a very good way.

If all you do is change the URL-format (not the content) it is not cloaking, as usually defined. In fact, Google actually reccomend this exact technique to get around session ID's: Identify their spider and leave out the session IDs. From what you told about the case it dosen't sound like cloaking to me.

Webmaster T
07-23-2004, 05:54 PM
Anyone have any experience with Browserhawk or any thoughts on this?I use it and Countryhawk on a few sites. The url string used to be even worse containing every param you chose. Even that didn't deter a crawler. If it messes with the url it is only removing its parameters so IMO, no harm no foul. If it's removing other parameters still the same as re-writing a url just a different method. To those who see this and decide to look further I wouldn't advise using it in the way some of their documentation suggests. I would agree with Mikkal on the cloaking angle. I will say it is great for writing content on the fly which is dependent on browser settings such as Br version, cookies, JS off, DHTML, Flash and connection speed.