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vfirst
03-03-2005, 04:16 AM
I have submitted my site in Google 6 months back but still not indexed .....we have so many backward links also approx 125 websites give link to our website (www.vfirst .com)

Please have a look at our website and let us know how to get indexed in Google database


Thanks
vFirst

Michael Martinez
03-03-2005, 10:25 AM
Well, NOT stuffing your meta tags with keywords, using only one keyword phrase in your title, repeating that title phrase in a user-visible H1 header tag, and including visible, indexable text on the page usually does the trick.

If you really want to chase that many phrases for placement, you need that many pages to do it effectively and cleanly.

Don't embed text in Javascript.

And you should try to clean up your code by putting a lot of that stuff in an off-page style sheet.

spartan300
03-03-2005, 11:02 AM
I noticed that I have been crawled by goolge and have shown up in their index for a few hours and then drop off. my site is new (December 2004) and I was hoping this was just temporary but see how you have submmited your site six months ago makes me worry about mine. I have the same question as vffirst.

www.spartannutrition.com

Michael Martinez
03-03-2005, 12:38 PM
Spartan, you ARE in the Google index. Your problem is a complete lack of indexable text on your site.

spartan300
03-03-2005, 12:53 PM
Can you explain just a bit what you mean about indexable text. I am very new to this. Is it becase the site was created using the yahoo store platform(store editor)? How would I correct this problem<

Thanks in advance.

lots0
03-03-2005, 01:18 PM
vfirst - you have a problem or should I say google has a problem with your site.

Your site has all the signs of being hand removed from the index.

You did not get hand removed from the index for having stuffed meta tags...

I am willing to bet that you already know what you did that got you slapped down by google... If you really don't have a clue as to what happened PM me, just be aware I don't work for free.


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How would I correct this problem
Learn HTML and SEO or hire someone that does know.

Michael Martinez
03-03-2005, 03:05 PM
Can you explain just a bit what you mean about indexable text. I am very new to this. Is it becase the site was created using the yahoo store platform(store editor)? How would I correct this problem<

Thanks in advance.

Your site is in the index. It has NOT been hand-removed.

The problem is that you have NO human-readable text on the page. You need to include descriptive text, a sentence or two per item on your main page. It might be better if you just provided a text-link list.

However, you're competing with a lot of other people who are selling the same products. About the only thing that will give you a competitive edge is to create a content-only site that contains articles about the benefits of using these products and how to develop and maintain a healthy lifestyle. Just link to your store with a text link or small graphical link in the lower right-hand corner of each of the content pages (that is, according to usability studies, the best place to put ads).

You need to write 1-2 feature articles every week and build up a searchable archive of articles.

That will help you in the long run.

Adding a forum community would help, too.

spartan300
03-03-2005, 03:40 PM
Thank You for the advice, I guess I have a lot of work ahead of me.

Michael Martinez
03-03-2005, 07:03 PM
Thank You for the advice, I guess I have a lot of work ahead of me.

Just remember that, on the Internet, the first people into any market are usually the ones who make the most money.

spartan300
03-03-2005, 09:37 PM
I made some changes. I think this is what you meant by adding human readable text.
http://www.spartannutrition.com

Michael Martinez
03-04-2005, 12:57 AM
That is a start, although the text is buried so deeply inside your formatting/layout code, it's hard to say whether it will be properly extracted by an indexing program (the spider fetches the page, the indexing program parses the page and adds data about the page to the index).

Also, I noticed you have some 1x2 pixel padding graphics embedded in the page. While their intention doesn't seem to be to hide keywords from the users, it could be that the height and width quantities are small enough to be triggering some penalties or filters.

Another thing I am noticing is that you don't put quote marks around the URLs in all your A HREF tags. That is, instead of doing <a href="somepage"...>, some of your URLs have just <a href=somepage ...> and that may be causing a problem. The same is true for your SELECT block. The OPTION VALUE= syntax should use quotes (OPTION VALUE="some value").

The style code can be removed to an external style sheet. It should be.

And you have at least one broken A HREF link going to your index page (the value is "=index.html").

I recommend absolute URLs in all your links. The spiders are supposed to figure out the correct absolute URLs, but sometimes it seems like being consistent helps.

It's very hard to read your code. It appears you're not getting proper LF,CR sequences at the ends of your lines.


To be honest, if I had written a program to parse this page, I would be very surprised if it returned anything useful. I've been programming for almost thirty years and have written MANY text parsers, including HTML parsers. I just would not anticipate a page ever being coded this way. So, while I cannot speak for the programmers at the search engines, I can tell you that they would have to venture far beyond the bounds of documented syntax to be able to handle this code.

vfirst
03-04-2005, 01:27 AM
Thanks very much Michael for such a good points, we are re-designing our website and we'll definately consider these points....if you have any other points then please let us know.

spartan300
03-04-2005, 10:06 AM
Thanks again Michael. From what you have told me, I think I will need to look for professional help.

lots0
03-04-2005, 12:12 PM
vfirst - Michael was not talking about your site www.vfirst.com he was talking about this site http://www.spartannutrition.com
vfirst - This thread of yours got hijacked by spartan300 who should have started their own thread...

vfirst - let me make this as plain as I can,
YOUR SITE VFIRST.COM HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM GOOGLES INDEX.

No amount of redesigning is going to help you.

Michael Martinez
03-04-2005, 12:17 PM
Vfirst, I was addressing Spartan300's site. Your site is not in the index. After you fix your problem, you'll have to request being reindexed.

spartan300
03-04-2005, 12:25 PM
My apologies to vfirst. I didn't mean to hijack your thread. I thought I was having the same problem you were.

AussieWebmaster
03-04-2005, 01:21 PM
I noticed that I have been crawled by goolge and have shown up in their index for a few hours and then drop off. my site is new (December 2004) and I was hoping this was just temporary but see how you have submmited your site six months ago makes me worry about mine. I have the same question as vffirst.

www.spartannutrition.com (http://www.spartannutrition.com)
You also have only a handful of backlinks 2 in Google and 5 at Yahoo.
You need to build inbound links - solid anchor text to boost your positions.

Michael Martinez
03-04-2005, 03:29 PM
Fix the page first. Get the backlinks later.

Don't make the mistake of hoping that backlinks will solve your problem.

AussieWebmaster
03-04-2005, 05:17 PM
Here is a free tool that can help with a bunch of your on page problems:
http://www.doctor-html.com/RxHTML/cgi-bin/doc-new.cgi