Hi There - In terms of ranking, if a person is listed in a portal site and their page that is listed has page rank of 2/10, but the home page of the site has a page rank of 6/10 and a Directory link. Is it the home page of the portal site that brings all the high rankings to the sub pages? I am assuming so. Just want to confirm. Thanks. -Beth :D

The PageRank of one's page is directly impacted by the PageRank of the page linking to a page.

for example:

Your page is named Page Z.
You have two links to Page Z from Page A and Page B, respectively.

Page A and Page B each have their respective PageRank values.

Page A and Page B will distribute a portion of their PageRank to your page, Page Z based on the number of outbound links contained on Page A and B.

But your Page Z's PageRank is directly influenced by Pages A and B, assuming those are the only links to Page Z.

So pages A & B have to have direct links to page Z? :confused:

Yes, the PageRank for Page Z depends entirely on links to Page Z itself.

Remember, your web SITE has no PageRank score. PageRank is assigned on a page by page basis. So even though your home page might be a certain score, that doesn't automatically make all your other pages pick up a part of that score. This will only happen if you actually link to those pages from your home page.

I see what you are saying. But .. can it help just a slight degree in your pr or absolutely not at all? :cool: Thanks for your help. -Beth

I see what you are saying. But .. can it help just a slight degree in your pr or absolutely not at all? :cool: Thanks for your help. -Beth

Can you restate your question? Can what help just a slight degree?

Have 1 more question. If Google sees that the portal site in total has 8000 pages, will that help the sub pages ranking?

Also, (#2) if the portal's home page has 1500 back links will that help the sub page.

I guess all this is a part of the determination of the page rank or at least #2, but I am wondering if the various components help the ranking of the sub page at all i.e.:

Answers so far:

Reciprocal linking: must be page to page to increase rank
Back links from home page?
Number of pages the site lists as a whole?

Danny isn't it like 10 p.m. in the UK or are you running a conference somewhere? Thanks Again :confused: -Beth

Have 1 more question. If Google sees that the portal site in total has 8000 pages, will that help the sub pages ranking?
This will not help with your pagerank value. It does however give you a better shot at ranking well for more specific keywords. The more pages the more you chances you have to rank for 8,000 different keyword phrases.

Also, (#2) if the portal's home page has 1500 back links will that help the sub page.
Yes, because if you have a home page with 1500 links to it and then you link from your home page to your sub pages, the pagerank of your homepage will 'filter' down into the sub pages. Its like diluting alcohol, well maybe not. :

Back links from home page? Yes, but not directly, but it close.

Number of pages the site lists as a whole? will not affect your pagerank.

O.K. so I understand. I guess my problem (there are many) is that I am trying to prepare a scoring card for the top 3 pages listed on Google for a certain search term. The top 20 pages that come up, except for the 1st one, are portal sites (of course I am talking Real Estate) listing only the sub pages, which are basically all have pr's of 0/10 and no real metatags, etc. The search term is "ventnor real estate" and lists 16,200 pages on Google. Not high competition. So, I am assuming that if you put together a good site, with alot of pages, get good 6 or 7/10 pages linking to your site, say 50, you can definately get above the portal site. I am attaching a chart for you to look at and use if you want. It is filled in but could be used later for analysis if you think it is worthwhile. I am assuming there are things like this out there, but I have been putting this together for a while.

Of course now that you have answered my questions, my chart is wrong, although I thought for sure that the number of pages a site has as a whole will overall help each pages ranking. You've probably answered this. See attached. -Beth

There are tons of factors as to why one page ranks over an other in any search engine. If you want to know about specifics here, that is fine. But I would recommend checking out this useful thread at http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152

Goes over some of the basics. Also, Danny has written several articles that sums up most of this stuff.

The sheer number of pages will not impact your listing... you need anchor text links for the term to have a real impact. It will help from repetition on your site but external links from other authority sites will have a bigger impact.

I am almost positive the more pages your website has the higher the individual pages will rank when optimized using the proper techniques. Marketleap calls it this:

""Search Engine Saturation" simply refers to the number of pages a given search engine has in its index for your website domain. Check your Search Engine Saturation and compare your website to competitors. Check this information on a regular basis to see if your Search Engine Saturation is climbing or falling."

There tool is at:

http://www.marketleap.com/siteindex/

-Beth :D