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hrhk12
06-15-2004, 07:22 AM
I have been working on website www.xyz.com from the last
one month...but there is no ranking of xyz.com in search engines.....how to check that google/dmoz/yahoo may be has blocked our website due to spam or any reason.
when I do link:www.xyz.com it shows 98 links found.....but not in rankings how to improve that, I have written meta tags, alt tags everything.....and they got indexed in Google (Title).....please help me?


we have one more website www.123.com with exact same website (mirror website of www.xyz.com) with good rankings in search engines.......IS there any problem due to this?


hrhk12

seobook
06-15-2004, 07:34 AM
if you are showing backlinks without rankings (when you feel rankings should show and have shown on a similar site with similar linkage data) and you know that your site is a mirror site then the mirror issue is probably causing your site to be filtered out of the search results.

David Wallace
06-15-2004, 11:44 AM
I have written meta tags, alt tags everything.....and they got indexed in Google (Title).....please help me?
Many times when people think they have done all they can do to optimize their sites, one comes to find out that there is so much more that can be done. With the two main search engines, Google and Yahoo, the most important things to do as far as 'on the page' optimization goes is to make sure each title tag of each page is optimized (not redundant but specific to each page), make sure your html copy is optimized and make sure you have a good internal linking structure, optimizing anchor text where possible.

It could also be that you are "shooting for the moon" in that you may be trying to target keywords that are just too competitive for your site's current condition.

It is hard too diagnose without having an actual look at the site in question.

seomike
06-15-2004, 12:00 PM
we have one more website www.123.com with exact same website (mirror website of www.xyz.com) with good rankings in search engines.......IS there any problem due to this?

If they are exactly the same you answered your own question :)

SE's aren't that smart. If you want to make xyz rank like 123 take the page's contents and mix-match them, leave some paragraphs out, add some paragraphs in , take a bottom paragraph and bring it to the top of the page. break up paragraphs with some links. you can spend 2 minutes on each mirrored page and it will make it look like a completely different site to an SE.

It might not rank exactly side by side like 123 does but it will probably rank since you got links going into it.

AussieWebmaster
06-15-2004, 02:54 PM
If they are exactly the same you answered your own question :)

SE's aren't that smart. If you want to make xyz rank like 123 take the page's contents and mix-match them, leave some paragraphs out, add some paragraphs in , take a bottom paragraph and bring it to the top of the page. break up paragraphs with some links. you can spend 2 minutes on each mirrored page and it will make it look like a completely different site to an SE.

It might not rank exactly side by side like 123 does but it will probably rank since you got links going into it.
Though I would tend to agree that the engines are not up to speed to catch the jumble mirror... but an annoyed competitor might and then report it to the SPAM cops at Google etc... once human eyes see it you could have a bunch of problems... rewrite and change look and feel a little and be in better position.

seomike
06-15-2004, 02:58 PM
I agree with that. I don't think there is any point in having a mirrored site. I mean you could pull it off but why waist the time???

hrhk12
06-21-2004, 01:35 AM
can we do redirect from our old website(with good rankings) to our new website (with no rankings) to increase PR and SE Rankings for our new website. Our old website is already listed in Dmoz but our new website is not listed in Dmoz.....will it effect our new website to get listed in DMOZ due to website mirroing.

seobook
06-21-2004, 05:57 AM
can we do redirect from our old website(with good rankings) to our new website (with no rankings) to increase PR and SE Rankings for our new website. Our old website is already listed in Dmoz but our new website is not listed in Dmoz.....will it effect our new website to get listed in DMOZ due to website mirroing.

DMOZ does not usually want to list the same site twice usually. I have seen it happen a number of times though.

AussieWebmaster
06-21-2004, 02:27 PM
can we do redirect from our old website(with good rankings) to our new website (with no rankings) to increase PR and SE Rankings for our new website. Our old website is already listed in Dmoz but our new website is not listed in Dmoz.....will it effect our new website to get listed in DMOZ due to website mirroing.

Is this going to be a permanent redirect? a 301 will push the PR etc. to the new site and is allowable... you can even get the new site listed at DMOZ (which you could have anyway)... since it is the old site that is redirecting to this new site... doing it in reverse would not work.