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Artprints
10-03-2007, 03:04 PM
My site, www. artprintswholesale.com has about 80,000 pages indexed currently in Google. It comes up very poorly on keywords like "art wholesale" and "wholesale prints" so I got the idea to not allow you to view the subjects and search results pages unless you log in which would reduce the amount of pages in Google to around 6 pages in hopes that this would concentrate all my PR into only those 6 pages.

Well, I made the changes and requested that google remove the majority of the pages through webmaster tools as well as my robots.txt file but for some reason they are not removing these pages even though they said they did.

Here is what my robot.txt file looks like.

User-agent: *
Disallow: /apprintdetail-asp
Disallow: /apgallery-asp
Disallow: /apnewreleases-asp
Disallow: /gallbig.asp
Disallow: /searchresults.asp
Disallow: /srchresults.asp
Disallow: /hpsrchresults.asp
Disallow: /browsebysubject.asp
Disallow: /poster/
Disallow: /wholesale/
Disallow: /art/
Disallow: /frameshop
Disallow: /frameshopcanvas
Disallow: /accounts
Disallow: /cart.asp
Disallow: /mailtofriend.asp
Disallow: /manualorderform.asp
Disallow: /canvastransferinterim.asp
Disallow: /hpmoreresults.asp

And webmaster tools looks like this.

Sep 20, 2007 www. artprintswholesale.com/searchresults.asp - Web page removal - Removed

As well as all the other pages I asked to be removed but I don't want to clutter up the post.

soooo, I have been brainstorming for how I can fix this and I came up with the idea to remove the entire site (because it is indexed like crap anyways) until a site:URL comes up with 0 results and then have the bot reindex the site for only the 6 pages I want them to have.

What do you guys think of this plan? Do I really have any other options? Any suggestions?

jimbeetle
10-03-2007, 07:17 PM
Sometimes it just takes a while for things to propagate throughout G's system.

Now, about concentrating your PR. I think you might have to do a bit of cleanup before worrying about that. I took a look at your backlink profile in Yahoo Site Explorer and what it shows might be the basic problem. I doubt if PR is passing from any of the purchased links. And I also doubt if any PR is being passed from the dot US domains (How many of those suckers do you have, anyway?), nor any of the other dot COMs you set up. I didn't see any backlinks from independent sites.

I'm going to hazard a guess that no matter how many pages Google's indexed for your site it's slapped the domain with one of those minus something or other penalties. Best steps to take would be to clean up all those links, start building some legitimate ones, get a webmaster tools account, wait a while, then file a reinclusion request.

Artprints
10-04-2007, 02:50 PM
All the .us and .com that we DID have (about 120 sites) I removed from the server some time ago and for some reason Google will not remove those pages from the SERPS.

It's been over 3 months since I removed the sites from our server.

Also, if those "Paid Links" are so obviously visible and don't pass the PR, then why do sites like text-link-ads sell them by the boat load.

I noticed all the "Big guys" don't have outbound links, so how do they get so many people to link to them? What incentive do they offer? I can understand if you have good content to link to, but not e-commerce websites just selling products.

jimbeetle
10-04-2007, 03:43 PM
All the .us and .com that we DID have (about 120 sites) I removed from the server some time ago and for some reason Google will not remove those pages from the SERPS.

It's been over 3 months since I removed the sites from our server.
For whatever reason Yahoo is hanging on to them also. You might want to use a server header checker to be sure the server is returning a 404 for those sites. And even if you removed them three months ago they can still be the basis for an ongoing penalty of some sort. Again, make sure things are completely sorted out, then file a reinclusion request.

Also, if those "Paid Links" are so obviously visible and don't pass the PR, then why do sites like text-link-ads sell them by the boat load.
Some folks don't know that most of those links don't pass PR, others are buying them irregardless of that, targeting sites that they think will get them some traffic.

Artprints
10-04-2007, 05:39 PM
Thanks man very informative. what is your opinion on my last comment

I noticed all the "Big guys" don't have outbound links, so how do they get so many people to link to them? What incentive do they offer? I can understand if you have good content to link to, but not e-commerce websites just selling products.

This point has been on my mind lately.

jimbeetle
10-04-2007, 06:46 PM
Well, you basically answered that in your question, they're "Big guys" and attract many links just by that fact. People naturally talk about and link to them and the products and services they offer.

But, I've just been playing around a bit in between and I saw that your top competitor on Google has many backlinks from Yahoo as a result of its prints being indexed in Y! images. That makes be think it might not be a very good idea for you to seal off the majority of your site. Something to seriously think about. Do some competitor research and see what ideas you might come up with.

AussieWebmaster
10-04-2007, 07:03 PM
If you had any presence in Google with the old site I would have done 301 redirects to save the inbound juice and just started a brand new domain and site and then redirected to it.