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JewelsofDenial
04-20-2007, 04:18 PM
I've been trying to read up on how and why the three major engines behave the way they do when it comes to indexing.

I just ran a query for our site "site:jewelsofdenial.com" on each of the engines, here's what I got back:

Google

www. jewelsofdenial.com/banners/banner150x38.swf
www. jewelsofdenial.com/shoppingcart.aspx
www. jewelsofdenial.com/wishlist.aspx
www. jewelsofdenial.com/createaccount.aspx?checkout=False
www. jewelsofdenial.com/createaccount.aspx?returnURL=giftregistry.aspx

Yahoo

www. jewelsofdenial.com
www. jewelsofdenial.com/wishlist.aspx
www. jewelsofdenial.com/shoppingcart.aspx

MSN

www. jewelsofdenial.com


The fact that Yahoo shows are homepage is because I gave them $49 for paid inclusion.

What concerns me is Google used to have our home page, but now even the cached version is gone.

Also, it seems that Yahoo and Google both picked up the wishlist and cart...then they both seem to stop. Does anyone know why this might be?

All of the engines have been given site maps which were provided several months ago. Also, it seems that Google regularly downloads a new map from us on a pretty frequent basis. Is that good or bad?

Any information you can provide/suggest would be most welcomed!

Brad

JohnW
04-21-2007, 10:04 AM
How come you have a 302 redirect from jewelsofdenial.com to www. jewelsofdenial.com?

JewelsofDenial
04-21-2007, 09:29 PM
I didn't know there was one, guess I will have to look into that...

JewelsofDenial
04-21-2007, 10:42 PM
This 302 was actually "turned on" by default in our software, we have now disabled it. Do you think that could have been a problem with getting indexed by the search engines?

beu
04-21-2007, 11:40 PM
This 302 was actually "turned on" by default in our software, we have now disabled it. Do you think that could have been a problem with getting indexed by the search engines?

Might be a good idea to make it a 301

JohnW
04-22-2007, 10:12 AM
Brad, looking at your list of Googles indexed pages, did you notice that accessing this one
www. jewelsofdenial.com/shoppingcart.aspx?
actually hits a 302 redirect that takes you to the https: version of the page?

Once you get there, as you continue to navigate the site, every page request will be redirected to the https version, also using a 302.

Google has your site partly indexed both ways, http and https

Either this is one crazy SE-unfriendly shopping cart/CMS or you have a poor implementation of it. You also need more links but I would focus on the CMS problems first.

Robert_Charlton
04-23-2007, 04:18 AM
Google has your site partly indexed both ways, http and https

Either this is one crazy SE-unfriendly shopping cart/CMS or you have a poor implementation of it.

That can turn into a very nasty problem. If, say, you have a security certificate for the www subdomain of your site and the non-www version of your site gets associated with https, and that shows up in the index, your visitors could get a message that something is wrong with your security certificate.

On Apache, it takes someone who really knows what he's doing to straighten it out. I don't know how this is handled on IIs. You want your cart pages to be https and your non-cart pages to be http. Badly designed carts can create a real mess.

Between the www and non-www, http and https, and index.asp and "/", and all possible combinations of these, you can create quite of bit of linking confusion and dissipate a fair amount of PageRank.