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darkdmr
04-18-2007, 06:12 PM
My site has pagerank 5 and has football/soccer statistics for all teams. Every team has its subpage that includes :

1. the team name in <h1> tag. For example <h1>Liverpool</h1>

2. last 10 football results from this team for example :

Nov 9, 03 Liverpool 1 - 2 Manchester United (Premiership) i
Nov 27, 03 Liverpool 1 - 0 Steaua (UEFA Cup) i
Nov 30, 03 Liverpool 3 - 1 Birmingham (Premiership) i
Dec 13, 03 Liverpool 1 - 2 Southampton (Premiership) i
Dec 26, 03 Liverpool 3 - 1 Bolton (Premiership) i
Jan 10, 04 Liverpool 1 - 0 Aston Villa (Premiership) i
Jan 17, 04 Tottenham 2 - 1 Liverpool (Premiership) i
Jan 21, 04 Wolverhampton 1 - 1 Liverpool (Premiership) i
Jan 31, 04 Liverpool 0 - 0 Everton (Premiership) i
Feb 7, 04 Bolton 2 - 2 Liverpool (Premiership) i

3. And then text comments about Liverpool from my site users.

And that way I cannot get good score in google search because google takes Liverpool as spam (i suppose so because it is met 20 times in the page). And that case for every team. And that is the opposite that I want. My subpage with PR 4 points to all the teams pages so they should get good score.

So now I made in all these scores Liverpool to be printed by javascript. document.writeln ('Liverpool') so now the word "Liverpool" will be found less times in the page and will be good keyword density. Do you think google will catch this? If yes, what would you suppose so I get good google search position for every team ?

BuckfastMonk
04-18-2007, 07:02 PM
Smart ;)

Make sure you call your JS from an external file and block it via robots.txt

lazlozand
04-18-2007, 08:20 PM
I would just point out 2 of the Google Quality Guidelines:


1. Make pages for users, not for search engines. Don't deceive your users or present different content to search engines than you display to users, which is commonly referred to as "cloaking."

2. Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings. A good rule of thumb is whether you'd feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a website that competes with you. Another useful test is to ask, "Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"


I'm not sure where I come out on this one...

:confused:
-LZ

SanDiegoSEO
04-18-2007, 09:09 PM
I wouldnt think either way you were going to get a penalty. You may not be able to rank for "liverpool" because of the over use of it originally, but that wouldnt prevent you from ranking for "Liverpool %teamname%" or "Liverpool Football". Putting the snipet in javascript shouldnt be an issue either. You're not decieving the spiders. I just don't think its needed.

darkdmr
04-19-2007, 03:50 PM
I use Liverpool translated in my language so the word is no competitive and I still don't get in top 10 results.

I dont confuse the users because printing the text with javascript is the same :)
In other forum they recommended to make the text as image, this would be the best way for me. How do you think ?
And if I do leave the javascript is there any chance to get a penalty?

BuckfastMonk
04-20-2007, 10:52 AM
sure you could use a picture. might get a bit tricky having to constantly change pictures after a new score line.

Sat in your house just wouldn't be fun :D

why not just have a heading "last 10 liverpoo results"

home vs manutd - lost 10 - 0
away vs manutd - lost 22 - 0

change the text to something better but you see my point

darkdmr
04-21-2007, 10:48 PM
10x, good opinion :)

Gooner151078
04-22-2007, 05:37 AM
I honestly don't think you need to go down the Javascript route. You are not trying to deceive anyone here.

However, if you are still worried about over-mentioning the word "Liverpool" then there are some simpler ways of listing the data. EG.

Liverpool
Date {} Opponent {} Home/Away {} Result {} Competition


Liverpool in itself is a very generic keyword and you will always be competing against larger companies as well as those not necessarily competing in your arena. Why go after this keyword?

Why not target a smaller more targetted keyphrase for the page. For example: "Liverpool FC Results" or "Liverpool football scores". There is far less competition for these phrases and you should be able to gain a better ranking providing you do the basics. ie. change your page title, meta info, H1 tags and anchor text of all internal links pointing to the page.

It is often simpler to target your pages specific to the service you offer. A site selling exclusively Villa Holidays will always struggle on they keyword "holidays" as there are so many generic holiday companies out there. They should focus on "Villa Holidays". Pick the highest volume keywords that are specific to your site and focus around them.

Hope this helps

Gooner