Hi all,

I recently pulled all of my internal links and pages indexed and noticed that most of the pages that have URLs like this "theme.homepage.com/topic1" are not indexed, whereas all of our pages with URLs like this "www.homepage.com/topic2" ARE indexed. All of these pages have been live for over a year, they link to our site map & homepage, they have clean, basic html content, so I'm confused as to why they aren't indexed. Does anyone have any ideas as to what we might try or what the problem may be? I'm at a loss...

Wayne

Hi all,

I recently pulled all of my internal links and pages indexed and noticed that most of the pages that have URLs like this "theme.homepage.com/topic1" are not indexed, whereas all of our pages with URLs like this "www.homepage.com/topic2" ARE indexed. All of these pages have been live for over a year, they link to our site map & homepage, they have clean, basic html content, so I'm confused as to why they aren't indexed. Does anyone have any ideas as to what we might try or what the problem may be? I'm at a loss...

Wayne
Have you tried looking if they are indexed as theme.homepage.com?
It happens with www.domain.com domain.com www.domain.com/ www.domain.com/index.html the rankings get deseminated throughout if you are not careful.

Thanks for your reply. I just checked that, and all are indexed with the subdomain URL, so they are being found, but I guess somehow they are not being associated with our main URL-- they are not showing as inbound links to the main site. The linking and coding is exactly the same for URLs that have subdomain URLs versus those that have top level domain URLs, so I'm begining to suspect that it's the URL itself. I also checked the pagerank of these subdomain URLs, since I've read that sometimes lower pagerank pages won't show as inbound links, but some of the pages in question have a PR of 5 or 6.

Any other thoughts?? :confused:

Thanks for your reply. I just checked that, and all are indexed with the subdomain URL, so they are being found, but I guess somehow they are not being associated with our main URL-- they are not showing as inbound links to the main site. The linking and coding is exactly the same for URLs that have subdomain URLs versus those that have top level domain URLs, so I'm begining to suspect that it's the URL itself. I also checked the pagerank of these subdomain URLs, since I've read that sometimes lower pagerank pages won't show as inbound links, but some of the pages in question have a PR of 5 or 6.

Any other thoughts?? :confused:

I'm not quite sure what your question is, but subdomain.domain.com and www.domain.com, and domain.com are all treated as separate domains, so PR won't be transferred from the main domain (www.domain.com) to subdomains (subdomain.domain.com) if you link internally from the main domain to the subdomain. The subdomains will have independent PR's from the main domain. It's like linking between www.yourdomain.com and www.yahoo.com, two totally different domains. I'm pretty sure this is correct, if anyone can confirm or refute this please do.

That's it pixel. Wayne, if you are attempting to use sub-domains to increase your site visibility, then you probably should stop now. As pixel stated, each is unique and as such requires its own link campaign performed. If you are duplicating content onto sub-domains, then you will get smashed for duplicate domains. Put more effort into the one main domain than multiple if that is the purpose behind your efforts. If not, then you are going to have to conduct a link campaign for each unique domain / sub-domain.

Actually if you decide to drop the subdomains you can do a permanent redirect.. a 301 redirect will pass all of the PR etc. to the new pages insdie you domain site.

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Thanks for your responses. It is disturbing because we have been building out new content on these pages, and perhaps it hasn't really been making a difference. There is no duplicate content - in essence, we were treating them like folders, so instead of www.homepage.com/folder, we were doing folder.homepage.com. We can easily change it, but wow, I'm surprised!

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Thanks for your responses. It is disturbing because we have been building out new content on these pages, and perhaps it hasn't really been making a difference. There is no duplicate content - in essence, we were treating them like folders, so instead of www.homepage.com/folder, we were doing folder.homepage.com. We can easily change it, but wow, I'm surprised!
What you should do now is using the naming convention for the pages just add the subdomain as the first adjective in the string for the page name. If you have under 200 pages keep them at the base domain level. You can structure them within Categories and page division for layout purposes etc. but keep them at www.domain.com/page.html
Now once you have gone through and changed all the links etc where needed so the site still looks the same.. do 301 redirects for each old page to the new page... in otherwords, leave the old pages where they are but put the redirect code there so the surfer is auto resent to the new page... by using a 301 redirect the spiders will know that the page rank and other info for the old page gets passed to the new page... and they get instant PR etc.
The old pages stay on your server and can be deleted generally after 6 months...

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Thanks for your responses. It is disturbing because we have been building out new content on these pages, and perhaps it hasn't really been making a difference. There is no duplicate content - in essence, we were treating them like folders, so instead of www.homepage.com/folder, we were doing folder.homepage.com. We can easily change it, but wow, I'm surprised!

on a side note....another good thing to remember when doing link exchanges is to make sure the people you are exchanging links with link to only one or the other:

www.domain.com or domain.com

i've seen some sites where they have link exchange partners linking to different URL's of the site, some with the www and others with just domain.com. to maximize your SEO you should make all incoming links to your site uniform because each URL is treated separately and has different PR.

on a side note....another good thing to remember when doing link exchanges is to make sure the people you are exchanging links with link to only one or the other:

www.domain.com or domain.com

i've seen some sites where they have link exchange partners linking to different URL's of the site, some with the www and others with just domain.com. to maximize your SEO you should make all incoming links to your site uniform because each URL is treated separately and has different PR.
Yes yes yes... use one constant URL (and www.domain.com and domain.com are different... as is www.domain.com/ and www.domain.com/index.html) or you will have the same type of problem as the subdomains

I tested the association of a subdomain to my site (Which I think is an authority lol) and found that a page posted as a sub was given no weight consideration vs a page that I placed on my own site. I used the serps competition as the model (Not nigritude ultramarine but "SERPS") and It was identicle to starting from scratch.

Subdomain no - subfolder go :D

Also with the 301 redirect All is not lost, if you keep the same filenaming convension then the whole folders credit should port over easily