View Full Version : Google infiltrated?
gehrlekrona
03-14-2006, 09:57 PM
I am not sure anybody have found this yet but have you ever wondered about all the .info sites that is showing up nowadays? I have seen thousands of pages that have a number and then a strabge domain name and then dot info and they show up really high up in SERP's and it has gotten worse for every day. I did a search for a domain name and it returned 180,000 pages and all of them has a redirect script. The link looks like, and probably is, a subdomain with the redirect page.
I do NOT like to report stuff to Google since it get me kind-of-chills down the spine when we start reporting each other to a company, but I have reported these sites for weeks and months but they are not removed from the index, so either Google doesn't care despite their own guidelines OR they can't figure out the redirect or something...
Anybody else seens all these domains? I didn't care in the beginning but when crappy sites get ahead of you in the SERP's then there's got to be something wrong... :confused:
jorock
03-15-2006, 02:57 AM
Can you sticky me some of the serps?
I think it is very safe to say that Google has not been infiltrated. :)
I don't think it is possible to fine tune SERPS to boost specific URLs like that. If you had cart blanche you could twist the algo to favour specific coding techniques which you used a lot on your site. However, the knock on effects of this would be widely apparent across the web.
In addition, I can not imagine how genius any individual would have to be to tamper with the algo in such a precise way and have no one else at Google notice. I suspect if this genius did exist they would not be spending their time doing this!
Google can exclude specific pages and/or domains from the index though. They'll apply this only to sites which attempt to trick the algo. They'll not apply this to unsavoury sites. Exclusion is algorithmically suggested (based on spam detection).
If you've found spam then I would encourage you to report it. You see how frustrating it is to spot it there. We'll all suffer the same frustrations if we don't help defeat it.
gehrlekrona
03-15-2006, 09:30 AM
Do a search for: --snipped-- and you'll find 127,000 pages. Now look at the link to the page. They all have numbers for their sub domains. I can give you tons of sites like this.
If you stop the loading of the page, you'll find a redirect and I don't know why Google haven't found it yet or it is totally legal to do it and if it is, then it seems to get a great way to get indexed.
If you search for just the domain name then it will show no link information but still tons of pages....
dannysullivan
03-15-2006, 10:45 AM
I snipped the reference above, in keeping with our no spam reporting policy.
I looked, and there's nothing particularly unique here. This is someone you has registered a .info domain who is doing a variety of subdomains off of that. They are using numbered subdomains probably as part of an automated spamming process.
Actually, it's borderline spam. They pages I saw are simply dooreway, with either scraped content or affiliate links mean to look like search results. Both Google and Yahoo had programs that will populate unused domains with content like this. Probably having multiple subdomains just for this purpose is a violation somewhere.
dynamedia
03-15-2006, 05:31 PM
I picked up on one of these earlier today, after I noticed that the content was clearly scraped from one of the sites I manage :mad:
What's worrying is that the domain has no pagerank, yet they're ranking top 10 - in some cases higher than manufacturers for big brand name products - which makes me think they're somehow leeching pagerank from sites like mine. Because this could have very major financial implications if they influence my own ranking, I filed a complaint with Google so hopefully they might investigate. I am definitely going to try and figure whether their IPs are fairly static though, so that I can block them with .htaccess to stop them ripping content from my site(s).
gehrlekrona
03-15-2006, 07:05 PM
that you found one... they are all over and it's getting worse every day with hundreds of thousands of pages with scraped content and redirects, and like you say, they are highr in the SERP's than actual sites but if you do a SITE:domain.info then they don't show up and I guess that is because then have "Google nocache" or something like that in their meta tags. They don't care if they show up if you do a SITE command as long as they can infiltrate googles index and bloat it.....
The info sites I have found and can track are all in Russia but there are also sites from all over the world. To me it seems like they found a hole in Googles Algo and they are using it to 200%.
There is absolutely no reason to tell Google about it since they either don't care or doesn't know how to fix it, probably both since a lot of them have Google AdSense on their pages and/or affiliate links where they make money... :mad:
gehrlekrona
03-15-2006, 07:12 PM
all these sites are usually easy to find.
If you have a popular web site, just go search for your domain name and you'll see hundreds of pages and if you see a domain name that has numbers in their sub domain name and then a funny looking domain name with an INFO extension, then these are the sites I am referring to..