Hey all,

I had AdWords running for awhile. Google said they do nothing to help natural rankings in Google. However, when I do a natural search on my domain name (in ANY search engine), I still see hundreds of results for pages/sites where my AdWords once ran (but are no longer running).

Clicking those links leads me to a page with AdWords, but of course, I'm no longer there.

Somehow, those pages must have been cached/indexed the day my ad was on that page.

An important note is that I understand that SERPs in lessor search engines do get picked up by Google as links to your site (which would pump your PR).

Today, I've finally reached a PR4 from 0. But I only have about 15 legitimate backlinks from sites where my link is "permanent".

So are these "ghost" pages where my AdWords once were falsely pumping up my PR, but it will pass and I'll drop back down to PR0 once those pages get recrawled?

If you take a look at the source code for any page that has implemented adwords you will notice that their code is implemented from a script. When a search engine spider crawls a webpage they will only see the javascript code which does not contain your URL in it anywhere.

When a visitor visits the webpage the javascript gets executed and the Google Advertising box is populated from their database with appropriate links...

The search engine spider would see this when indexing the page, not your link:

<script type="text/javascript"><!--
google_ad_client = "pub-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
google_ad_width = 160;
google_ad_height = 600;
google_ad_format = "160x600_as";
google_ad_type = "text_image";
google_ad_channel ="";
google_color_border = "557FA9";
google_color_bg = "FFFFFF";
google_color_link = "0000FF";
google_color_url = "FF0000";
google_color_text = "000000";
//--></script>

<script type="text/javascript"
src="http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js">

Hence, there is no way you achieved a pr boost from adsense, it's just not possible. If you post or PM your website I will be able to tell you how you achieved your pr 4 page rank if you like.

However, when I do a natural search on my domain name (in ANY search engine), I still see hundreds of results for pages/sites where my AdWords once ran (but are no longer running).

What do you mean by natural search? Are you using the link:, linkdomain: commands?

How are you searching for backlinks to your site?

Today, I've finally reached a PR4 from 0. But I only have about 15 legitimate backlinks from sites where my link is "permanent".You can have PR4 with way less than 15 backlinks, you can have it with only 2 or 3.

Were those "ghost" pages that seemed to be backlinks MFA pages with scraped content?

<script type="text/javascript"><!--
google_ad_client = "pub-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
google_ad_width = 160;
google_ad_height = 600;
google_ad_format = "160x600_as";
google_ad_type = "text_image";
google_ad_channel ="";
google_color_border = "557FA9";
google_color_bg = "FFFFFF";
google_color_link = "0000FF";
google_color_url = "FF0000";
google_color_text = "000000";
//--></script>

<script type="text/javascript"
src="http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js">



This isn't the only way to display an adsense ad and Google has been indexing JS.

Whether you can be credited with PR, IMO, I'm actually open to the possibility, at least.

Can you point me to some resources regarding Google and javascript indexing? I would be interested to read more.

How can they index the links embedded in the javascript, and credit them as backlinks?

More specifically, why would Google, who runs Adsense, credit a site with backlinks and PR when they know the script they are indexing is theirs and it is paid advertising?

Should I just start buying adsense ads like crazy to improve my backlink count and search engine rankings?

Just my thoughts.

Hey all,

I had AdWords running for awhile. Google said they do nothing to help natural rankings in Google. However, when I do a natural search on my domain name (in ANY search engine), I still see hundreds of results for pages/sites where my AdWords once ran (but are no longer running).

Clicking those links leads me to a page with AdWords, but of course, I'm no longer there.

If you're talking about the "www.mysite.com" query...that just returns sites where your link text has appeared, it's not counting the actual pages that link to you. It won't influence your PR at all. The "real" links you mentioned are what is providing you with your current PR.

Okay, I'm going to have to backtrack here.

The reason for my post is because I recently found an adsense ad that had been indexed and cached (text) by google. Not having looked into it deeply and seeing a load of AJAX and JS I'd assumed that google had indexed the JS, but taking a quick look again that may or may not be the case and I don't have the time to look at it deeply at the mo.

(My own belief is that mozzybot can and does index JS)

The reason I'm open to the suggestion about PR being credited is that A citation is a citation whether or not its wrapped in an <a> tag or not, and if were a Google engineer looking at the PR hoarding, javascript links and actual citations in plain old text, Etc....it just wouldn't surprise me.

Google has been indexing JS.Since when? Why don't you show us a page from Google's cache displaying JS that's been indexed, which would then be in the cache?

The reason I'm open to the suggestion about PR being credited is that A citation is a citation whether or not its wrapped in an <a> tag or not,Are you saying that PR can be passed without there being a link (a href = a link)? Since when? Got any documentation for that?

This isn't the only way to display an adsense ad and Google has been indexing JS.

Whether you can be credited with PR, IMO, I'm actually open to the possibility, at least.

When did Google start indexing js? .jsp yes but I have not seen even .js files listed.... have an example we can see?